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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: B G Racing] #1459533
07/12/13 11:58 AM
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Well,for what it's worth the entry fee was only a small cost as compared to the total cost of the entire trip.Josh usually steps up for the racers and I don't think he will be any different this year.We consider any unused entry or entry in general to be our donation to the sport and hope it keeps Josh from going under.We will write our donation off just like we do for the Humane Society,Cancer Society and other worthy causes.We have lost too many events and we know that the dollars spent by a lot of racers is hard earned and understand that expenses wasted on rainouts may be the difference as to weather they can afford the next event.To look at it in a logical sence,it was money that was going to be spent for a given weekend and the possibility of recovering any through winning is a long shot.Though the event was plegued with rain we made the best of it.We got parts from venders,seen some nice show cars,found parts at the swap meet,raced a little and got to see our friends.We can't put a price on the seeing our friends part of the weekend.Josh we are not wanting any refund,you can use our's to help others or consider it our part of helping your next event.
Respectfully
Bob.




Every time BG posts something like this, I gain even more respect for him. BG for president! And I thought he was just a dumb/selfish racer. (JUST KIDDING)

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: HardcoreB] #1459534
07/12/13 01:18 PM
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Well,for what it's worth the entry fee was only a small cost as compared to the total cost of the entire trip.Josh usually steps up for the racers and I don't think he will be any different this year.We consider any unused entry or entry in general to be our donation to the sport and hope it keeps Josh from going under.We will write our donation off just like we do for the Humane Society,Cancer Society and other worthy causes.We have lost too many events and we know that the dollars spent by a lot of racers is hard earned and understand that expenses wasted on rainouts may be the difference as to weather they can afford the next event.To look at it in a logical sence,it was money that was going to be spent for a given weekend and the possibility of recovering any through winning is a long shot.Though the event was plegued with rain we made the best of it.We got parts from venders,seen some nice show cars,found parts at the swap meet,raced a little and got to see our friends.We can't put a price on the seeing our friends part of the weekend.Josh we are not wanting any refund,you can use our's to help others or consider it our part of helping your next event.
Respectfully
Bob.




Every time BG posts something like this, I gain even more respect for him. BG for president! And I thought he was just a dump/selfish racer. (JUST KIDDING)


He's got my vote!!


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dartman366] #1459535
07/12/13 02:42 PM
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But the main concern is to answer the questions and we agree that there are two sides, the racers and the promoters.The racers have expressed their concerns and the promoter needs to respond.No one is asking for a detail of finances of the event but a decision from the promoter,even if it's a "look guys we can't afford to give anything" or maybe a discount on fees for the next event or just " we are sorry,but we can't control the weather,or if the attendence is great at our next event we will try and increase the payouts.
I'am just suggesting things and certainly not telling anyone how to run their business.We certainly don't want to see Josh lose money and cancel his events.We have seen what happens to promoters who doesn't respond to the concerns of the attendees of their events.
As I stated before,we don't have an issue with the outcome of the event but can't speak for many other racers and attendees or the promoter.Our concern is for upcomming events,MM,Mopar Nats, Curt Memorial and others loosing support because someone or thing left a bad experience cloud their decision on attending.

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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: B G Racing] #1459536
07/14/13 05:57 PM
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Well have no dog in the fight,, but Josh needs to answer!!
couple answers is all he needs to do,, they are easy ones to make!

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dennismopar73] #1459537
07/14/13 07:09 PM
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Not sure how old Josh is but he communicates about as well as my kids do. I call them the texting generation. He had some issues with a few guys on his website about shirt sells and it went on way to long. Even if people hear something they don't want to hear its better than hearing nothing at all. I have no dog in this fight either as I like to race a weekly racing program. I would be really pissed to travel that far just to sit at the car trailer. Josh has no control over the weather but if the track asked if we could race 1/8 mile to get some racing in and someone turned them down I would pack my stuff up and head to another race.


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: pittsburghracer] #1459538
07/14/13 07:21 PM
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Go to the Y.B. and search this thread. "Its been almost as year Wheres the $$$$ I was told would be returned" I think a guy named Brian from Air Flow was the poster.This guy was a sponsor from the rage race that did not happen. He said that Josh stoped all comunication. It took 3 weeks after he posted to finally get paid.Thats after Josh admitted to oweing him. You guys read it.


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: slippery440] #1459539
07/14/13 07:29 PM
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I cannot believe that of all people,you are responding to this thread... Like I told you via pm after your pissing,moaning,and whineing to me to kill this thread,our members have a right to know. Maybe lots of us don't visit YB...I don't and like I said,could care less. So quit stirring the crap and maybe our members can get an honest answer...And please don't pm me....

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: tboomer] #1459540
07/14/13 07:42 PM
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OK TED WHAT DID YOU SAY.IF THERE IS ANY PROOF THAT THIS HAS HAPPEN BEFORE THE MEMBERS SHOULD KNOW.Plus as I said in the pm what does this have to do with race tech or ???. There is anouther web site that is owed by Josh thats where this needs to be. Total bull poop!!!!


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: slippery440] #1459541
07/14/13 07:53 PM
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Your words "I could care less...I didn't read the whole thing.And it looks like it was edited.If there is dirty laundry about a race or promoter, our members need to have it exposed. Your words

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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: slippery440] #1459542
07/14/13 09:17 PM
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I wonder what "Mopar Collectors Guide" view is on this??


Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: moparniac] #1459543
07/14/13 09:26 PM
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These posts get way too far out of hand. It hasn't been all that long since the event took place. There have been many events in the past that took a long time to get paid.
I am personally amazed that anyone puts on events anymore the way people cry about them. Josh has a full time job,a family and a personal life, I think a couple weeks of not knowing isn't a big deal. After all,the stress he deals with putting on these events and dealing with the weather issues he deserves a vacation away from dealing with it.
Just my opinion ,I hope he continues the events in spite of the crying.
Keith

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1459544
07/14/13 10:00 PM
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These posts get way too far out of hand. It hasn't been all that long since the event took place. There have been many events in the past that took a long time to get paid.
I am personally amazed that anyone puts on events anymore the way people cry about them. Josh has a full time job,a family and a personal life, I think a couple weeks of not knowing isn't a big deal. After all,the stress he deals with putting on these events and dealing with the weather issues he deserves a vacation away from dealing with it.
Just my opinion ,I hope he continues the events in spite of the crying.
Keith


I'm with you Keith, I am sure having weather issues at the same event two years in a row will work on one's nerves.


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: nhramark] #1459545
07/14/13 10:55 PM
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And yes the race was called to early. Even though it looked bad the decision should not have been made until the last possible chance of it clearing up and getting the track ready for racing. If it would take 2 hours to dry the track then the decision should have been made later in the day and still leave time to finish the race. Maybe a good guess would have been by 5:00pm and if possible dry the track and be racing by 7:00pm and could be finished by midnight I just suggest that there should be a time allotment made for each track depending on dry up time required and time left to finish the race.

See ya all at Norwalk


Russ




Let's just clear this up now. Saturday morning the track crew was having a very difficult time getting the top end of the track dry because water kept pushing up through it. They wanted me to make Saturday an 1/8 mile race which I was not willing to do.

Then it started raining for real, and it was still raining at 3pm. With the heavy cloud cover, cool temps, and no wind, it was going to take 3 hours to have the track ready. At that point we could not have gotten the race done by the midnight curfew. Cancelling the Saturday race sucks for us too, but it was the right call.




They wanted me to make Saturday an 1/8 mile race which I was not willing to do.
I think you guys better have a sit-down before the next race and ask "THE RACERS" would you rather race 1/8 mile or not race at all. I think someone made a VERY bad choice. Get one round of racing in and the race is a race.


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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dartman366] #1459546
07/14/13 11:12 PM
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No event will go away over a few who have asked question onsome type of rain out refunds!
How ever events will go away thru lack of particapation!
Some of that is direct result of , lack of comunication, changing of the classes/elemination ,constant changes to payouts/entries,
As with most events decissions made after rainouts normaly taken care that day, ,
The powers thatbe that runs this event know all ready what he plans to do,
As I stated before, This evevt will be wrote off so what few dollars a few are looking for will amount to nothing in the total picture of your racing plans

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dennismopar73] #1459547
07/15/13 02:10 PM
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No event will go away over a few who have asked question onsome type of rain out refunds!
How ever events will go away thru lack of particapation!
Some of that is direct result of , lack of comunication, changing of the classes/elemination ,constant changes to payouts/entries,
As with most events decissions made after rainouts normaly taken care that day, ,
The powers thatbe that runs this event know all ready what he plans to do,
As I stated before, This evevt will be wrote off so what few dollars a few are looking for will amount to nothing in the total picture of your racing plans





For these events to survive they have to be profitable and run professionally.To make a pissing match out of the issue will not help.If one person or 100 ask a reasonable question it deserves an answer,publicly or privately.If one person or a thousand ask something stupid it can be ignored.
One thing for sure piss off one person on the internet and everyone gets a chance to choose sides.It should have never gotten this far along.I'am respectfull of Josh and will continue to support his events but also remain respectful of my friends and racers and feel their concerns should have been addressed.
Respect to all.
Bob

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dennismopar73] #1459548
07/15/13 02:27 PM
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No event will go away over a few who have asked question onsome type of rain out refunds!
How ever events will go away thru lack of particapation!
Some of that is direct result of , lack of comunication, changing of the classes/elemination ,constant changes to payouts/entries,
As with most events decissions made after rainouts normaly taken care that day, ,
The powers thatbe that runs this event know all ready what he plans to do,
As I stated before, This evevt will be wrote off so what few dollars a few are looking for will amount to nothing in the total picture of your racing plans






Well said Bob

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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: pittsburghracer] #1459549
07/18/13 06:33 PM
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I think you guys better have a sit-down before the next race and ask "THE RACERS" would you rather race 1/8 mile or not race at all. I think someone made a VERY bad choice. Get one round of racing in and the race is a race.




You may have a valid point. On the other hand asking racers about switching to 1/8 mile is like asking people what they think about gun laws - you're going to get some very divided opinions.

In this case it's a moot point because the amount of rain we got was too much either way.

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: dartman366] #1459550
07/18/13 07:05 PM
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These posts get way too far out of hand. It hasn't been all that long since the event took place. There have been many events in the past that took a long time to get paid.
I am personally amazed that anyone puts on events anymore the way people cry about them. Josh has a full time job,a family and a personal life, I think a couple weeks of not knowing isn't a big deal. After all,the stress he deals with putting on these events and dealing with the weather issues he deserves a vacation away from dealing with it.
Just my opinion ,I hope he continues the events in spite of the crying.
Keith


I'm with you Keith, I am sure having weather issues at the same event two years in a row will work on one's nerves.






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Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: sdaurity] #1459551
07/18/13 10:02 PM
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Again, this is a "Mopar Collector Guide" series race, what is rob wolfe and the magazine's take on this?
just curious

Re: MMW Indy 2013 updates [Re: nss guy] #1459552
07/18/13 11:24 PM
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I personally think its been plenty long enough. It's not the amount of money, it's poor business. I posted on Fast Mopars site with no answer there either. And for what its worth , I walked the track Saturday just after dark. Granted that was later, but there had been no dryers or traffic on the track. It had one small puddle at the edge of the shutdown area, the rest was dry.
Doug

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