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Driveshaft discussion #1459424
06/28/13 07:03 AM
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Had an interesting conversation with an engineer at work yesterday about driveshafts. I told him I plan to upgrade the driveshaft in the Dart Sport over the winter to a 3.5" moly from Dynotech. He claims that would be overkill and that a dom 3.5" would be well suited for my power level. Engine makes nearly 850 horse and 775 ft. lb. torque and the car weighs about 3400 pounds. What is your guys take on driveshafts? Steel, Moly, Aluminum? Diameter, thickness? Lots of options and I'm sure even more opinions.....

Randy

Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Dartin] #1459425
06/28/13 07:18 AM
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I'd rather buy a moly shaft and be done with it. That is one area where overkill isn't a bad thing.

Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Dartin] #1459426
06/28/13 08:45 AM
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It would depend on the length and the RPM you turn it
but moly would most likely be over kill... I dont make
the torque that the BB make and the lengths of mine
are fairly short.. one is 37" the other is 40" and both
are DOM 3.5"... I'm sure that Dynotech will say DOM
is fine for you... but I would let them suggest what
is needed

Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Dartin] #1459427
06/28/13 11:00 AM
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Quote:

Had an interesting conversation with an engineer at work yesterday about driveshafts. I told him I plan to upgrade the driveshaft in the Dart Sport over the winter to a 3.5" moly from Dynotech. He claims that would be overkill and that a dom 3.5" would be well suited for my power level. Engine makes nearly 850 horse and 775 ft. lb. torque and the car weighs about 3400 pounds. What is your guys take on driveshafts? Steel, Moly, Aluminum? Diameter, thickness? Lots of options and I'm sure even more opinions.....

Randy


3.5" DOM would be just fine. - with 1350 U-joints.


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Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Crizila] #1459428
06/28/13 12:12 PM
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I went with aluminum for weight saving, you would have to check hp rating for those though. the price difference wasn't that great.

Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Dartin] #1459429
06/28/13 12:35 PM
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Had an interesting conversation with an engineer at work yesterday about driveshafts. I told him I plan to upgrade the driveshaft in the Dart Sport over the winter to a 3.5" moly from Dynotech. He claims that would be overkill and that a dom 3.5" would be well suited for my power level. Engine makes nearly 850 horse and 775 ft. lb. torque and the car weighs about 3400 pounds. What is your guys take on driveshafts? Steel, Moly, Aluminum? Diameter, thickness? Lots of options and I'm sure even more opinions.....

Randy




960Was said engineer shooting from the hip or did he ask pertinent questions, like, how long is your drive shaft, what is its expected max rpm, what level will it be balanced to, etc? just asking

And current engineers are trained to incorporate "just enough" into the design to get the job done, which is fine, until they are in the car


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: jcc] #1459430
06/28/13 12:52 PM
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As already stated the parameters for the driveshaft are length and driveshaft RPM. HP an weight are non factors essentially. You want a material that will not exceed critical speed for the material used at a given length and RPM. For instance my Super Street car has a fairly short driveshaft with driveshaft speeds under 8000rpm and it is DOM, the Hot street car has a fairly long driveshaft and sees 9200+ in driveshaft speed so it is a Carbon Shaft.


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Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: Al_Alguire] #1459431
06/29/13 05:49 AM
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they recomened 3.5 moly or 4" aluminum for me. I went with the 4" aluminum.

Re: Driveshaft discussion [Re: John Burdine] #1459432
06/29/13 09:16 AM
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One area where overkill is a good thing! This little mishap cost me about 9 months of downtime and 1500$ to fix.

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