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Late model Cragar S/S wheels
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05/27/13 11:03 PM
05/27/13 11:03 PM
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MarkZ
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Anyone notice quality issues on late model S/S rims? My Dad bought a used set that were in great shape and they're rusting after only being on the car for a year. They never see winter, not much rain, and are stored indoors. The rims were manufactured only a couple of years ago. The S/S wheels on my Fifth on the other hand were made in the 80s and have seen an assortment of weather over the years and still look great.
1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: MarkZ]
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05/28/13 10:28 AM
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Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
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Yep, rust popping up from under the chrome. Been a lot of talk here and other places about this. I have a set doing the same thing.
Master, again and still
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: OzHemi]
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05/28/13 01:12 PM
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During the winter month's. I put a coat of wax on them & leave it on them all winter. They are still starting to show their age though.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
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05/28/13 02:33 PM
05/28/13 02:33 PM
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Franklin CT
syleng1
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Moparts People, That's called "patina" and right now that look is in! Good for you! I bought a set dated from 69' from Dave LeTournue (sorry Dave, I don't mean to butcher your last name) Used but they were not rusty just worn. If it bothers you that much send them out and have them Chromed again. I know you spent a lot of pesso's on Mexican wheels. Sadly unless we do something about it, cheap parts will be the norm. They are laughing all the way to the bank.  Sorry, I am actually on your side. I just want stuff to last. Joe
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: syleng1]
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05/28/13 02:49 PM
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Kent, Wa
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So their quality control isnt any better than 40 years ago..  Back then my bro in law bought a new set of 15x10 SS Cragers.  After 2 weeks the chrome plating started pealing off in sheets.  They said it was his fault and wouldnt do anything about it.  No Crager junk for me.. 
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: Tom Fox]
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05/28/13 07:26 PM
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MarkZ
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Well, that is certainly a bummer. How in the world can a company justify this? All it'll take is a couple of years for the entire customer base to get wind of this and sales will stop.
1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: MarkZ]
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05/28/13 09:14 PM
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Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
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Well, this has been going on for years and years. Nothing new here. People just seem to keep buying 'em.
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: MarkZ]
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05/29/13 12:47 AM
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OzHemi
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Well, that is certainly a bummer. How in the world can a company justify this? All it'll take is a couple of years for the entire customer base to get wind of this and sales will stop.
They just don't care.
I've asked that myself from them many times...and they just don't seem to be bothered or care from unhappy customers.
I am in the middle of trying to get an order filled for steel wheel outers from them (about 250 raw steel, plus some chrome), and it is like fighting city hall. And all I want to do is give them money basically. 
I go there in person to pick up my orders even (well, depending on the order size, I get between 6 and 20 pallets of them at a time) and they will be so-so in person, then as soon as you walk out the door it is again.
And...not that people here would ever have to deal with it, but the guy in charge of shipping/recieving there you have to deal with is a 
I have had about 4 pallets of chrome outers on order for 3 1/2 weeks now, and for the past week and a bit, I have been trying to get onto the salesman about what is happening with my order. No answer to about 4 emails, and his voice mail is full (and no calls returned before that)
The problem is....partially at least, is that they probably know they are one of the few games in town for steel outers and just don't care. I order a certain size they do not make from another manufacturer, but they are across the country and I need to order 20 pallets of that size at a time. (they do a run of them just for my order basically)
I could get more common sizes from them too, but transport costs and timing of it all make it not really practical.
I have even paid for orders from Carlise and had them pull some of my order to use or sell to other customers.  
Just part of having to deal with it all... I even had a salesman I got stuck dealing with once tell me that he was doing me a "favor" by dealing with me and selling to us.  I hung up and called the corporate office until I got to someone that would vaguely listen to me.
The guy eventually got let go, but the person who replaced him basically acted the same way without saying anything about it. Corporate any more just doesn't care.
I had another order and I buy wheel centers from them too, and they were missing when the outers got delivered (it was a big enough order that I had them trucked, wasn't worth my time with a trailer back and forth) anyways....they kept saying the centers where there..and I said there are no boxes on a pallet, only the outers.
Turned out, someone in shipping decided all of a sudden to drop the centers down inside of the outers and not tell anyone.  So I had to unpack about 12 pallets of wheels to try and find them, then restack and shrink wrap it all.
Again, they just don't care...
Sorry for the rant, but just as an eye opener to anyone wondering why the wheels might rust or have issues and the company doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: OzHemi]
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05/29/13 02:03 PM
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It's a shame. They are undoubtly the most suitable wheel for an old hot rod or musclecar. My golf cart even has Cragar's on it. LOL
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
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05/29/13 08:50 PM
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Land 'O Lakes
RoadRunnerLuva
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You know the world is going to sh*t when the Cragar people just don't care.... are you listening Cragar?? 
Plymouth Makes It!
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Re: Late model Cragar S/S wheels
[Re: OzHemi]
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05/30/13 03:33 AM
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Quote:
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Well, that is certainly a bummer. How in the world can a company justify this? All it'll take is a couple of years for the entire customer base to get wind of this and sales will stop.
They just don't care.
I've asked that myself from them many times...and they just don't seem to be bothered or care from unhappy customers.
I am in the middle of trying to get an order filled for steel wheel outers from them (about 250 raw steel, plus some chrome), and it is like fighting city hall. And all I want to do is give them money basically.
I go there in person to pick up my orders even (well, depending on the order size, I get between 6 and 20 pallets of them at a time) and they will be so-so in person, then as soon as you walk out the door it is again.
And...not that people here would ever have to deal with it, but the guy in charge of shipping/recieving there you have to deal with is a
I have had about 4 pallets of chrome outers on order for 3 1/2 weeks now, and for the past week and a bit, I have been trying to get onto the salesman about what is happening with my order. No answer to about 4 emails, and his voice mail is full (and no calls returned before that)
The problem is....partially at least, is that they probably know they are one of the few games in town for steel outers and just don't care. I order a certain size they do not make from another manufacturer, but they are across the country and I need to order 20 pallets of that size at a time. (they do a run of them just for my order basically)
I could get more common sizes from them too, but transport costs and timing of it all make it not really practical.
I have even paid for orders from Carlise and had them pull some of my order to use or sell to other customers.
Just part of having to deal with it all... I even had a salesman I got stuck dealing with once tell me that he was doing me a "favor" by dealing with me and selling to us. I hung up and called the corporate office until I got to someone that would vaguely listen to me.
The guy eventually got let go, but the person who replaced him basically acted the same way without saying anything about it. Corporate any more just doesn't care.
I had another order and I buy wheel centers from them too, and they were missing when the outers got delivered (it was a big enough order that I had them trucked, wasn't worth my time with a trailer back and forth) anyways....they kept saying the centers where there..and I said there are no boxes on a pallet, only the outers.
Turned out, someone in shipping decided all of a sudden to drop the centers down inside of the outers and not tell anyone. So I had to unpack about 12 pallets of wheels to try and find them, then restack and shrink wrap it all.
Again, they just don't care...
Sorry for the rant, but just as an eye opener to anyone wondering why the wheels might rust or have issues and the company doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.
Id be giving www.speedwaymotors.com a call.. 
I am truckless..
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