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Does it ever end? Another 727 leak #143929 10/31/08 02:00 PM 10/31/08 02:00 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	I've fixed 5 other spots, now I noticed some dampness around this bolt. What's the fix for this? 4784541-boltleak.jpg (141 downloads)

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143930 10/31/08 02:11 PM 10/31/08 02:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation	With the lock-nut loosened .... is the bolt itself loose/sloppy in the case ?

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: dOoC] #143931 10/31/08 02:21 PM 10/31/08 02:21 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,813 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,813 Arlington, Texas	That's your band adjustment. You can take off the nut and back out the screw a couple turns, then put some sealer on the threads. Put the adjustment screw back where it was or adjust to spec. No, it never ends.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: bobby66] #143932 10/31/08 03:01 PM 10/31/08 03:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,568 Omaha, Nebraska Scott Carl pro stock
Scott Carl pro stock Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,568 Omaha, Nebraska	Quote: No, it never ends. At least its not a Turbo-Hydromagical (Chibby) Had a hot lil' '75 Monza once. Neat car, but I could never keep tranny from bleeding. Me thinks it was possesed

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: Scott Carl] #143933 10/31/08 04:54 PM 10/31/08 04:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,072 Farmland, IN Ludington1 master
Ludington1 master Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,072 Farmland, IN	I had constant leaks with my 727 and then it died on me after about 18 months of weekend cruising I finally went to extreme measures... garage floor looks better, my face looks like and my car goes like Darren 4784826-Interior-1.JPG (67 downloads)

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143934 10/31/08 06:38 PM 10/31/08 06:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA	The band adjuster isn't a very common leak point. The adjuster is the same size as a 1/2" drain plug washer so you could install one under the nut. 4785002-WashercaptiveOring.jpg (63 downloads)

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: John_Kunkel] #143935 10/31/08 09:32 PM 10/31/08 09:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 288 Delmont, Pa. S SRT8Challenger enthusiast
SRT8Challenger enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 288 Delmont, Pa.	Ya, Mine is a leaker too! Looks like a pain to get to. Torsion bar and headers are in the way from below. Do you guys get to it from the top? Is there a way to adjust without a pressure gauge?

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: John_Kunkel] #143936 10/31/08 09:56 PM 10/31/08 09:56 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Quote: The band adjuster isn't a very common leak point. The adjuster is the same size as a 1/2" drain plug washer so you could install one under the nut. Any adjustment needed, or just remove the nut and add the washer? My tranny has a reverse manual valve body if that makes any difference?

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143937 11/01/08 02:58 PM 11/01/08 02:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA	You could just hold the adjuster and remove the nut to install a washer but why not adjust it while you're at it? The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: John_Kunkel] #143938 11/01/08 03:21 PM 11/01/08 03:21 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Quote: You could just hold the adjuster and remove the nut to install a washer but why not adjust it while you're at it? Well, that's the problem. I have no idea how to adjust it. Any simple instructions or tips? Thx

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143939 11/01/08 03:28 PM 11/01/08 03:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation	First ... is that adjuster bolt really loose in the trans case ?

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: dOoC] #143940 11/01/08 03:41 PM 11/01/08 03:41 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Don't know yet, haven't loosened anything up yet. Doesn't move to the touch, when I wipped it down to make sure the fluid was coming from the area.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143941 11/01/08 04:05 PM 11/01/08 04:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation	What I would do is this..... MARK the position of the bolt and loosen up the nut and check to see if the bolt is loose in the case. The threads could be bad OR the case could be cracked. A leak in that area is very unusual.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: dOoC] #143942 11/01/08 04:16 PM 11/01/08 04:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Adjusting bands: http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/auto/4.html Loosen locknut (Or remove if you want to install a sealing washer) Turn in the adjuster-bolt till it's just 'snug', then back it off 2 full turns. Hold it there while you tighten the locknut again. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143943 11/01/08 04:18 PM 11/01/08 04:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,894 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: Well, that's the problem. I have no idea how to adjust it. Any simple instructions or tips Some manual valve bodies have specific instructions but the general adjustment procedure is to back the nut off and tighten the adjuster snug with a short (4") wrench. Then back the adjuster off two full turns and tighten the nut while holding the adjuster. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143944 11/01/08 04:19 PM 11/01/08 04:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,568 Omaha, Nebraska Scott Carl pro stock
Scott Carl pro stock Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,568 Omaha, Nebraska	Quote: Quote: You could just hold the adjuster and remove the nut to install a washer but why not adjust it while you're at it? Well, that's the problem. I have no idea how to adjust it. Any simple instructions or tips? Thx Isn't this the band adjustment? The specs should be in any Motor's, Chilton's or Haynes manual. It does take an inch pound torque wrench or the conversion to foot pounds. Sorry, I have neither.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: Scott Carl] #143945 11/01/08 04:38 PM 11/01/08 04:38 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW OP master
BDW OP master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Thx all for the info, I probably dab some sealer on the threads and add the washer, before adjusting it. Wonder which spot will leak next. I've already fixed the following: Pan gasket Neutral safety switch gasket Pivot pin Selector shaft seal Driveshaft seal

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143946 11/01/08 04:44 PM 11/01/08 04:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,455 Florida STAYcation	Hmmm... that thing was leaking like a screen-door ....are you sure it is not OVERfilled ?

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: dOoC] #143947 11/01/08 05:30 PM 11/01/08 05:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,813 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,813 Arlington, Texas	I'd be leary of a rubber or plastic washer. Your lock nut may not torque dowm properly.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: Scott Carl] #143948 11/01/08 06:13 PM 11/01/08 06:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,196 Harrisburg, Pa. screamindriver master
screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,196 Harrisburg, Pa.	Quote: Quote: Quote: You could just hold the adjuster and remove the nut to install a washer but why not adjust it while you're at it? Well, that's the problem. I have no idea how to adjust it. Any simple instructions or tips? Thx Isn't this the band adjustment? The specs should be in any Motor's, Chilton's or Haynes manual. It does take an inch pound torque wrench or the conversion to foot pounds. Sorry, I have neither. The torque value is just to make sure it's snugged up...A small wrench will do the job...Just snug it down then make your adjustment..

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143949 11/01/08 06:15 PM 11/01/08 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Quote: Wonder which spot will leak next. I've already fixed the following: Pan gasket Neutral safety switch gasket Pivot pin Selector shaft seal Driveshaft seal How about the oilfiller tube seal...? BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: BDW] #143950 11/01/08 06:41 PM 11/01/08 06:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,760 Port Alberni, British Columbia MoparDonny top fuel
MoparDonny top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,760 Port Alberni, British Columbia	I would take the linkage off the trans and check to see that when the valvebody was put back in after the linkage seal was replaced,that someone (you??) didn't fold the lip of the seal over. Easy to do, been there, but I always check. I couldn't really see that much oil comming from the band adjuster. usually it will just have a damp look all around it. Don.

Re: Does it ever end? Another 727 leak [Re: MoparDonny] #143951 11/03/08 09:13 AM 11/03/08 09:13 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	clean it with brake clean throw some baby powder up on it look to see where its seeping from did you change both shaft/selector seals? does not look like you gots much adjustment left,not many threds showing above the lock nut,may be your last adjustment and hope you can get the lock nut back on may be you should mark it,hold it there and back the lock nut off,use some brake clean to remove the oil,then just put a little rtv (mopar black rtv for trannys)around the case and adjuster and tightend the lock nut back down with the adjuster in the same spot you have it in now thats if its shifting and working good...dont fix what anit broke and like said,the valve body may have its own specs for the band adjustment Last edited by scratchnfotraction; 11/03/08 09:22 AM.

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