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Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: EV2DEMON] #1403182
03/17/13 06:54 PM
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I have no way to dispute that, however, I never, ever heard a V-8 scream like that. It sounded like every v-12 I have ever heard. I can't imagine the rpms a V8 would have to turn to sound like that.

You are not alone in belief its a V8 ,
http://corseclienti.ferrari.com/2013en/2013/03/458-italia-podium-sebring/

but I kno what I heard , maybe it was those steam speed sounding Vipers that convinced me they were v-12's. Seriously, are they a flat crank or something, or what to get that sound?

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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: MattW] #1403183
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_458_Italia

Specs are there for both street and GT3/2 versions.





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OH wait they will dominate and then get penalized for being unstopable. Happened the last time. Forced to add weight to the point of not being competitive.
All the drivers love the cars. They are very predictable, have lots of bottom end torque and can be corrected easily. Matt




Actually, that's not what happened at all. The Oreca Vipers ran strong and won championships until 2001, when Chrysler shifted their corporate backing to the LMP effort. With no factory backing, the Vipers were left to the privateers and simply could not compete with the well funded Prodrive Ferrari and (later) Pratt/Miller Corvette.

Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: EV2DEMON] #1403184
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Thanks for the pics; I assume by the "family site" reference that the spring-break-girlwatching is as good as ever.
The production 458 is indeed a V8, so unless that's some kind of "Prototype" somehow running in the GT class, it should also be a V8. By the same token, IIRC the BMWs were running V8s last year in a car that doesn't have a production V8 version. As for its sound, listen to the Ferrari F1 V8; may be some of that technology crossing over.

Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: jcc] #1403185
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For instance, ALMS for the fans in years past had every racecar install on both sides, 3 LED lights. Each of the four racing classes had a different color set of LEDS. The number of lights lit indicate class position. Very helpful since race is so loud, its a long course with limited sight lines, and very few scoring towers. This year, no leds.

The list goes on.






Actually, the "leader lights" are gone because the company that manufactured the transponders to allow them to work no longer supports the system. The ALMS has said they hope to find a new supplier and have the lights back at some point in 2013.

Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: topside] #1403186
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By the same token, IIRC the BMWs were running V8s last year in a car that doesn't have a production V8 version. As for its sound, listen to the Ferrari F1 V8; may be some of that technology crossing over.




The M3 used in the ALMS through last year is a production V8 car. The Z4 they went to in 2013 is an I6 or I4, but the GTE uses the same 4.4 V8 as last years M3.

I always thought the GT cars had to use the same configuration as the production car they were based on, but apparently that's not necessarily the case.

Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: EV2DEMON] #1403187
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My gut feeling was 'leader lights" was cutback on the promoters part. There maybe a reason the company no longer supports the system and money maybe part, seems odd it was well liked. There were many other areas the event seemed cut back, less free grandstands stands for race fans, fewer portable toilets, least fan friendly winners circle fan accommodation and very shortened time frame wise, requiring a parking ticket for any trailer attached to an already ticketed tow vehicle (first time this has been done). Some of this maybe because less pre race ticket sales, which maybe from same reasons nascar is down, or more likely no real top tier Audi competitor, and Audi is already out the door.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: EV2DEMON] #1403188
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OK, I thought BMW was using the Z4 last year...

Re: Team SRT in first place.. Sebring [Re: jcc] #1403189
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jcc.. Thanks for the pictures. I've never been to Sebring or any road race but been a fan since the late 50s.
You'll have to post a few pictures from the early days.
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