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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: dart4forte]
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02/13/13 04:35 PM
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My '68 Barracuda convertible has them front and rear.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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02/13/13 06:55 PM
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Front and rear Torque boxes were standard issue on all 67 and later A-body convertibles, all A-Body big block cars, and all A-body 340 manual trans cars. That said, there were a lot of mistakes made during production, some cars got them that should not have, some cars that should have them didnt get them, or only got just fronts or just rears.
What he said , that said my 69 383 4 speed has them front and rear , don't rmember if my 440 gts had fronts , it definitely had the rears, and a 69 383 auto car I just looked at pictures of had rears but didn't appear to have the fronts 
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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02/13/13 07:40 PM
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Front and rear Torque boxes were standard issue on all 67 and later A-body convertibles, all A-Body big block cars, and all A-body 340 manual trans cars. That said, there were a lot of mistakes made during production, some cars got them that should not have, some cars that should have them didnt get them, or only got just fronts or just rears.
Well that's probably the case. The GTS was being unloaded and we noted that there was torque boxes on the rear but not on the front. I must have one of the mistakes.
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: dart4forte]
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02/13/13 07:42 PM
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Front and rear Torque boxes were standard issue on all 67 and later A-body convertibles, all A-Body big block cars, and all A-body 340 manual trans cars. That said, there were a lot of mistakes made during production, some cars got them that should not have, some cars that should have them didnt get them, or only got just fronts or just rears.
Well that's probably the case. The GTS was being unloaded and we noted that there was torque boxes on the rear but not on the front. I must have one of the mistakes.
Is it an auto or a stick ? convertible ???
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/13/13 08:07 PM
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Front and rear Torque boxes were standard issue on all 67 and later A-body convertibles, all A-Body big block cars, and all A-body 340 manual trans cars. That said, there were a lot of mistakes made during production, some cars got them that should not have, some cars that should have them didnt get them, or only got just fronts or just rears.
Well that's probably the case. The GTS was being unloaded and we noted that there was torque boxes on the rear but not on the front. I must have one of the mistakes.
Is it an auto or a stick ? convertible ???
My GTS is a auto hardtop
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: dart4forte]
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02/13/13 09:36 PM
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I know my GTS 4-speed missed the torque box station on the assembly line. 340 car. Talk to the Dart Hoarder! 
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
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Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: Rhinodart]
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02/14/13 02:21 AM
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You rangggggg....  My educated experience is as follows: All 67-69 A-Body convertibles got front and rear. The hardtops, 67 GTS's seem to have only got rears. 68 MOSTLY only got rear but I have seen later built with fronts also. I have seen a few automatics with none, but those cars were in question anyway. 69's I have seen more with both, but only 4-speed cars. There were ALWAYS exceptions, these are CHRYSLERS after all... 
Thanks, kinda settles it. I just thought it was weird that my GTS only had rear torque boxes. learn something new every day. Thanks Jim
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: dart4forte]
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02/14/13 02:39 AM
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My 69 m code Cuda only had rears.
Convertibles had both. But you never know.
Auto' most had just rears
4 speed car most had front and rears.
Then you get the one that alway throws the whole theory off
I had an original 68 340 4 speed barracuda with not torque boxes sooooo?
I Herd many stories with missing torque boxes.
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: Rhinodart]
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02/14/13 12:22 PM
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I have had quite a few 4-speed 68 and 69 340 and 383 cars with only rear boxes. 
Does your M code have fronts ? I don't remember but I want to say no now that I think about since it had fenderwell headers an I stuck mufflers on it and one point.
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
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02/14/13 04:00 PM
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What do the front torque boxes look like? I would like to see a picture so I can see if my 1969 H code GTS 4 speed car has them or not  BTW, do any of you have a OEM tach for sale for my 1969 GTS or do you know where I can get one Thanks in advance 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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02/14/13 11:21 PM
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My 1973 Duster 340-4spd had them front and rear.
1970 FE5 Duster 360/904/3.91's SOLD
1973 TB3 SpaceDuster 340/4spd/4.10's SOLD
Moparless for now but when the opportunity is right I'll have another one.
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
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02/15/13 12:02 AM
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What do the front torque boxes look like? I would like to see a picture so I can see if my 1969 H code GTS 4 speed car has them or not BTW, do any of you have a OEM tach for sale for my 1969 GTS or do you know where I can get one Thanks in advance
Cab, I borrowed these pics from Rhinodart in the restoration section
[hope he doesn't mind!]
Torque boxes are circled in yellow
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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02/15/13 12:53 PM
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Front and rear Torque boxes were standard issue on all 67 and later A-body convertibles, all A-Body big block cars, and all A-body 340 manual trans cars. That said, there were a lot of mistakes made during production, some cars got them that should not have, some cars that should have them didnt get them, or only got just fronts or just rears.
Pretty much the same way for everything. If you haven't worked in an auto assembly plant you probably have no clue on how many cars get built with missing, incorrect, or substituted parts. As an example I know A LOT of trucks would get hi-stall converters because the guy sequencing them would get behind and not get the bins with the standard ones changed in time. Bolts? Whatever fits in the holes when the bins run low. Have a big parts supply issue - they WILL make substitutes to keep the lines moving, even to the point of having competitors make them, such as the GM 360 cranks. Yes, with Ma Mopar there is no always gets or had - it's should or most had.
Free advice and worth every penny...
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
[Re: moparfan53]
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02/16/13 09:11 PM
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Re: Torque Boxs on A Bodies
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02/18/13 02:18 AM
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Same as i posted over on Abodies for you,
It's all sometimes hit and miss, but generally speaking for '67-'69 this is it:
1) All converts front and rear no matter motor size.
2) No boxes on /6 or 318 hardtops/fastbacks, ect
3) 340 autos no boxes
4) 340 4speeds have front and rear
5) 383 auto always rear, occasionally fronts from what I hear?
6) 383 4speeds always rear, occasionally fronts from what I hear?
7) 440 only built with automatics, always rear, never heard of any with fronts.
I'm not sure why but I've seen more 340 4speeds with both and 383 cars with just rears? Why I don't know, you would think the 383's would have both?
I have 2 340 4spds with both, a 340 auto with none, 3 383 4spds with rear only, 2 440 autos with rear only. Some guys will say BB cars have both but you can't prove that by me or any cars I've seen!
I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
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