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single to dual field alt. conversion #138634
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i have a 69 valiant i`m converting to dual field. i have the wireing diagram on how to do it. i have the one wire from the new voltage regulator going to the one field of the alt.(the same field wire the old voltage regulator used) the other wire goes splices into the to ignition side of the old voltage regulator with a wire going to the other field. there are 2 wires on the ignition side of the old voltage regulator, which one do i splice into?

Re: single to dual field alt. conversion [Re: 65rbdodge] #138635
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or you could just ground that field. It will run like that just fine.

Re: single to dual field alt. conversion [Re: 65rbdodge] #138636
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Both alternators have the same number of fields. one.

One has 2 field wires, and the other only one. The only difference in the circuits is where the regulator is located.

The easy way is to ground the second terminal on the alternator you're installing.

Here's some info dual field myth

Re: single to dual field alt. conversion [Re: dave571] #138637
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Here's all you need to know:

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/17307regulator2.jpg

The only difference between the 69/early and the 70/ late is that the field is not grounded to the alternator, but instead is brought out to two terminals.

You can use a LATE (2 field terminals) on EITHER a late or early regulator, just ground one field terminal

If you are using the 70/late regulator, hook as the diagram I posted.

Hook the 12V source listed in the diagram to your old regulator ignition connection. If this connection has two wires, then one branches off to feed the coil ballast, IE this lead comes from the key and is an "ign 1" 12V source

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All I get from that link is the diesel pages logo and a blank screen

In any case, no need to reinvent the wheel here.

Even if you use the new style reg, the only change is the second terminal from the alt is wired back to the reg. It grounds there(through the reg). The first terminal gets key on 12 v.

The existing key on ign lead at the reg, can do the same thing with the new style reg.

You can't ground a terminal AND use the newstyle reg. The newstyle reg IS the ground for the charging field.

Re: single to dual field alt. conversion [Re: dave571] #138639
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dave I guess I wasn't clear, what I meant was, IF you are using the early regulator with a late alternator, then you just ground one field terminal.

I don't know why the pictorial won't load, works fine here.

However, your answer may have been confusing to some as well, with your statements referring to "the field grounds through the regulator"

To be clear, what happens is that the late regulator REGULATES by CONTROLLING the current through the regulator to ground.

Nobody is trying to reinvent the wheel. Corvette already did that with their stupid directional and front/ rear wheels and tires.

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All I get from that link is the diesel pages logo and a blank screen




Their site detected an image hotlink, and put up a 'bandwidth thief' image instead. Copy and paste this link into your browser, and you should see the picture.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/17307regulator2.jpg

-Dave

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All sounds good.

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Quote:

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All I get from that link is the diesel pages logo and a blank screen




Their site detected an image hotlink, and put up a 'bandwidth thief' image instead. Copy and paste this link into your browser, and you should see the picture.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/data/500/17307regulator2.jpg

-Dave




See if this one works better. The ign1 (12V from the key in "run") feeds three things:

(possibly also electric choke)

feeds one terminal of the alternator field

feeds the ign terminal of the regulator

feeds the "high" side of the coil ballast for the ignition

http://www.geocities.com/torygbp/mopar2.jpg

Re: single to dual field alt. conversion [Re: dave571] #138643
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Quote:

Both alternators have the same number of fields. one.

One has 2 field wires, and the other only one. The only difference in the circuits is where the regulator is located.

The easy way is to ground the second terminal on the alternator you're installing.

Here's some info dual field myth






in fact should it be called simply dual or single prongs, but has been called in that way already since ever


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