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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
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02/10/13 12:44 AM
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Do you guys think that would work on a smallblock? I can probably chop up a stock distributor to make the bushing for a SB. It is still a 1X signal right?
There's already a SB mopar EFI distributor with a 1x hall effect signal in it. I don't know the year offhand. It would be a lot bigger, but may be easier to use.
Does anyone know if there's a version of that jeep sensor comes with an 8-toothed wheel?
Does anyone have an Idea on a year? That would really speed up my swap not having to fabricate one 
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
[Re: SLOW67]
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02/10/13 03:59 AM
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Do you guys think that would work on a smallblock? I can probably chop up a stock distributor to make the bushing for a SB. It is still a 1X signal right?
Should work fine if you make a bushing/spacer to make the distributor the correct length. Yep...it's a 1X signal.
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
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02/12/13 08:04 PM
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I got it all worked up in solidworks, and programmed taken care of, I just need to clear a job off the lathe, and then I will turn a few of them. The one pictured will require about .37 to be shaved off the bottom of the Jeep CPS shaft that keys into the pump drive. This can be done real easy with a dremel, or I might try adding that amount to the top of the adapter, but then a stock hold down may not work. Stay tuned! This will work for our applications, I just need to finish it up. This week for sure. 
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
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02/17/13 09:15 PM
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Whalllaaaa Peanut butter sammiches!!!! You can ask for a 2003 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 "Cam Sequencer" to get the correct CPS/SHAFT DRIVE for this project. I made two bushings, one for my project, and one for Quicksilver440. PM Me your Address, and I will send yours out. The O-Ring groove is a little rough, but will work, and the bushing is a .001 slip fit to the CPS, so I hope the CPS's Tolerances are good!! Haha!  
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
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02/17/13 09:33 PM
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PM Me your Address, and I will send yours out. The O-Ring groove is a little rough, but will work, and the bushing is a .001 slip fit to the CPS, so I hope the CPS's Tolerances are good!! Haha!
Hi,
I would really like to get hold of a bushing, but I am in UK. If you dont mind posting to England, thats great, naturally I would pay for any pacjing, postae costs.
Is there anyway you could share your drg with me & I then could get one made at my local machine shop.
Thanks,
Mark . . .
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
[Re: redmist]
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02/18/13 03:45 AM
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Awesome work!!  That made my day.... Looks great....I like this Jeep reluctor way better than my original prototype as it's smaller and doesn't require a new cap, etc. Just looks more finished... I've been working on the simplified standalone wiring diagram a little....gotta get back on it. Been working on Honey-dos last 2 weekends....
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
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02/18/13 06:54 AM
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As far as sharing files and prints, I am bound by my work contract to not do that. People in the defense industry frown on shared documents no matter what it is.
It's a super simple part though, if you have a caliper, and both parts, it would be easy for any machine shop to make.
No problem, I will measure & create my own sketch, was just looking to save some time.
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
[Re: SLOW67]
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02/18/13 03:16 PM
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I'd bet that included chassis dyno time during tuning....remember, you gotta compare apples to apples. My brothers shop I believe charges $299 ( CAL-SPEED & PERFORMANCE ) for a chassis dyno tune for an LSX based motor. Plus $100 extra for the Speed Density. It will cost you that much money for chassis dyno time even with Megasquirt. Plus Megasquirt III is $645 for a built PCM...for $35 you can buy an LS 411 PCM (that's what I paid)+for $500 you can just buy the HP Tuners software (I've seen it for $250-$300 used) and tune it all yourself. So, it's still cheaper than Megasquirt (not that there's anything wrong with megasquirt) Or for $35 for a LS1 PCM + $299-$400 for a MAF based tune by a tuner on a chassis dyno you don't even have to know how to tune and will be up an running. Lot's of options...nothing wrong with Megasquirt though...
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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02/18/13 06:16 PM
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And one more time from a guy who's worked on allot of Fuel Injection... My vote is a OE PCM because they have diagnostic capabilities including freeze frame PID recording & trouble codes.. With aftermarket systems you need your laptop hooked up & you need to be viewing the proper parameters if & when something goes wrong... Hard faults are easy, intermittents can be challenging but if you've go an OE PCM it will detect a fault, set a code & record the data just prior to, during & after the event....
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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02/18/13 06:31 PM
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you can buy the whole holley kit (part# 550-605) for $1500 and it comes with everything you need?
That's not a bad way to go (but it isn't a totally complete system...as that's basically a PCM, software and harness)....still $1000 more than using an LS PCM and buying the tuning software. But you could use that setup with the 24X crank reluctor and 1X cam signal and would have a great system...but you still would be up in the $2000-2500 range min. depending on what kind of horsepower you are trying to support.
Also...the LS PCM will do pretty much anything you need to do.
So $550 or $1500...kinds blows the low buck part out of the water. So $800 minimum for a LS based system....or $2000 minimum for a Holley system.
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Keeping it on the first page lol I promise I will have some pictures of my harness this weekend
