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PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! #1373657
01/21/13 04:28 PM 01/21/13 04:28 PM
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considering running my boost feed back to the throttle body inside the car, twin turbos in the rear, roadrace early A, 65 Dart
why turbos in the rear??, trying to achieve a neutral car, with at least 50% rear weight, this is not a drag car, since everything is so tight in an early, considering running the 3.5 inch supply boost line inside the car
pros and cons, anyone else done this???
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Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373658
01/21/13 04:37 PM 01/21/13 04:37 PM
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Trying to post a picture, hope this works
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Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373659
01/21/13 04:38 PM 01/21/13 04:38 PM
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Most of the drag cars with remote mounted huffers, not roots type huffers mounted on top of the intake manifolds, have intercooler in the passenger seat are with the boost pipes into and out of the intercoolers back to the engine mounted throttle bodies

Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373660
01/21/13 04:40 PM 01/21/13 04:40 PM
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Guys do it all the time when they have the inner cooler
in the trunk area
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373661
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Here a couple more pictures
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Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373662
01/21/13 05:13 PM 01/21/13 05:13 PM
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here another
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Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373663
01/21/13 05:32 PM 01/21/13 05:32 PM
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I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there.

One day I will have something cool here.
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373664
01/22/13 12:09 AM 01/22/13 12:09 AM
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I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there.



Not sure if I understand the comment??
Luke
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373665
01/22/13 03:06 PM 01/22/13 03:06 PM
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I like it. I like it a lot!
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373666
01/22/13 03:33 PM 01/22/13 03:33 PM
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Quote:

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I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there.



Not sure if I understand the comment??
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I'm guessing he doesnt like water to air intercoolers
and is thinking it might break a cooing tube and
pump water into the engine.... I've seen lots of those
type innercoolers run and no problems
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1373667
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Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya.

One day I will have something cool here.
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373668
01/22/13 04:35 PM 01/22/13 04:35 PM
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Mine is where the passenger seat should be. I had no room in the trunk to fit it or the water tank.


Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373669
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Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya.



For road racing wouldn't an air to air innercooler be better? How long are the runs? The ice melts pretty quickly when you are pumping 400 degree air through it. Also, use a blowoff valve besides your boost control.
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: BobR] #1373670
01/22/13 05:52 PM 01/22/13 05:52 PM
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Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya.



For road racing wouldn't an air to air innercooler be better? How long are the runs? The ice melts pretty quickly when you are pumping 400 degree air through it. Also, use a blowoff valve besides your boost control.



air to liquid for effiency, maybe i was wrong, the intercoolers weight a ton, i guess thats not necessarily a sign of quality....lol
thanks
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Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373671
01/22/13 06:06 PM 01/22/13 06:06 PM
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What heads are those?motor specs?
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373672
01/22/13 06:19 PM 01/22/13 06:19 PM
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I've had $1,000 custom fabricated intercoolers break and leak... and also had $200 eBay intercoolers last forever. There is never any guarantee - regardless of what you pay for things, so I wouldn't let the $$$ spent be a factor.

Where are you going to mount the heat exchanger/radiator for the intercooler system? Air/Water IS super efficient - but you have to be able to shed the heat that's introduced into the system.
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Abodyjohn88] #1373673
01/22/13 07:03 PM 01/22/13 07:03 PM
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What heads are those?motor specs?



w9's, mopar intake, 4.10 stroke, scat crank and rods, JE custom pistons, 447 cid, kevco custom pan, 6 gates, wilson elbow and tbi,
6 speed tremec, quicktime scattershield, twin turbos

the car is a nearly rust free 1965 Dart, Reilly alterktion front suspension, lynx triangulated rear, moser db axle, Wildwood brakes,etc
full tubs, etc

luke
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373674
01/22/13 07:24 PM 01/22/13 07:24 PM
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planning on running 245-40r17 in the front and 335-30 or 35 18's in the rear, quick ratio power steering, stabilizer bar, bump and ackerment adjustments, after talking to Rich from Fastman, will most likely go with fast efi 2.0 with traction control....
Luke
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373675
01/22/13 07:30 PM 01/22/13 07:30 PM
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Sounds like it will be a ball to drive!
Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: FastmOp] #1373676
01/22/13 07:32 PM 01/22/13 07:32 PM
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It looks like you have a PTO coming from the driveshaft to power the water pump! LOL

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