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Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers #1372658 01/20/13 11:57 AM 01/20/13 11:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Has anyone on here done this combo?I am talking about a small block auto with tti's step headers and the alter K.Problems? 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372659 01/20/13 02:29 PM 01/20/13 02:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX SB449VALIANT pro stock
SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX	It can be done, i dont have one myself but i have picx, i'll try to find them for you. Btw i know at least one in Fabo.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372660 01/20/13 02:46 PM 01/20/13 02:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Performance Only] #1372661 01/20/13 02:58 PM 01/20/13 02:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Quote: How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. I have a 65 cuda and wondered if going to an alter k might fix some of the intallation and clearance issues. 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372662 01/20/13 03:00 PM 01/20/13 03:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Quote: It can be done, i dont have one myself but i have picx, i'll try to find them for you. Btw i know at least one in Fabo. Thanks,pics would be good. 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372663 01/20/13 03:58 PM 01/20/13 03:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA Leon441 master
Leon441 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA	Any off the shelf header on an early A body (63-66) is going to be tough. Basically you have to understand your framerails are 2" closer together than later A bodies. I have never looked at a set of TTI headers on one of these but can only imagine how tight the fit will have to be. I would recommend running a BOBSPROFAB tubular front k-member with rack and pinion and coilover shocks. This will move all the problems out of the way. Then you have a lot more room. But, the best headers are going to be a custom built header. This is not inexpensive and I don't want to BS you in to believing it is. But, after you do this you would really have a nice front end and headers that would truely turn your somewhat basketcase Barracuda into a really nice user freindly car. I feel I can say this because I know these cars well. My car was a total headache to work on until I made these upgrades up front. Now I would not trade it for any other A-body. PM me if you have any detailed questions Leon Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Performance Only] #1372664 01/20/13 04:00 PM 01/20/13 04:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon V viperblue72 top fuel
viperblue72 top fuel V Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon	Quote: How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. What header wouldn't be a nightmare on a early A, other than fenderwell?

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Leon441] #1372665 01/20/13 04:43 PM 01/20/13 04:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX SB449VALIANT pro stock
SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX	Quote: Any off the shelf header on an early A body (63-66) is going to be tough. Basically you have to understand your framerails are 2" closer together than later A bodies. I have never looked at a set of TTI headers on one of these but can only imagine how tight the fit will have to be. I would recommend running a BOBSPROFAB tubular front k-member with rack and pinion and coilover shocks. This will move all the problems out of the way. Then you have a lot more room. But, the best headers are going to be a custom built header. This is not inexpensive and I don't want to BS you in to believing it is. But, after you do this you would really have a nice front end and headers that would truely turn your somewhat basketcase Barracuda into a really nice user freindly car. I feel I can say this because I know these cars well. My car was a total headache to work on until I made these upgrades up front. Now I would not trade it for any other A-body. PM me if you have any detailed questions Leon . 7554593-image.jpg (288 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372666 01/20/13 04:44 PM 01/20/13 04:44 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372667 01/20/13 04:45 PM 01/20/13 04:45 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372668 01/20/13 04:46 PM 01/20/13 04:46 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372669 01/20/13 04:46 PM 01/20/13 04:46 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372670 01/20/13 04:47 PM 01/20/13 04:47 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372671 01/20/13 04:48 PM 01/20/13 04:48 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372672 01/20/13 08:33 PM 01/20/13 08:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	I like the AlterKtion because it eliminates the need for the stock upper shock mount. Mine is a '65 with W-9 heads. I started with a kit for late A body headers from Stahl and don't have pics of the finished product , but they turned out pretty O.K. The primaries are a couple inches longer than optimum and one tube on each side still goes outside the rails ( 7 & 8 ), but I got a good stretch of tube before the first bend. The steering shaft needs to come out for installing / removing them , but I am happy with the results. Not cheap either , but a lot cheaper than having them made....with flanges from SPD and the kit , I had around 650.00 into them. Got them coated locally and bartered on part of the price so I am into them for under 850 bucks......well under 1/2 price of having them built. 7554870-cooling&headers002.jpg (356 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372673 01/20/13 08:34 PM 01/20/13 08:34 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	another angle 7554873-cooling&headers005.jpg (397 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372674 01/20/13 08:36 PM 01/20/13 08:36 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	partial from pass side.........when I was done they looked nothing like the picture I was using for a reference. 7554878-cooling&headers003.jpg (364 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372675 01/21/13 06:20 PM 01/21/13 06:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota !	Soooooo.. The undercar TTI's won't fit a car with a Alterkation suspension but, they would a stock set up ?

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: bigdad] #1372676 01/21/13 07:13 PM 01/21/13 07:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Soooooo.. The undercar TTI's won't fit a car with a Alterkation suspension but, they would a stock set up ? I bet they would , and are probably a nice choice for stock ports or maybe even W-2's. 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 " step would be marginal for my deal and hacking apart a 800.00 set of headers to use the W-9 flange and still having un-equal primary length factored into my decision too.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372677 01/21/13 07:25 PM 01/21/13 07:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota !	post more pics of your project I had never seen it before this thread Please

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: bigdad] #1372678 01/21/13 09:04 PM 01/21/13 09:04 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,377 Back In Iowa B belv2vert66 pro stock
belv2vert66 pro stock B Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,377 Back In Iowa	I am considering this also. I really wish I would have done it when I built the car along with sub frame connectors and a mini tub... but had different goals then. I am running Spitfires now but have a Shady Dell 408 coming in March. We are going to dyno it with the Spitfires and see how it does with them. The Spitfires were reasonably priced but the custom exhaust work required to get them not to rub rattle and make the car fun to drive was not.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: belv2vert66] #1372679 01/22/13 06:07 PM 01/22/13 06:07 PM
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65signet mopar 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 498 El Dorado Ca	I have the TTI's on my 65 and the K frame fitment is good the T bars are the worse part, once the headers are in they fit good don't bang on anything and they flow great. When you install a big header in a small car its not always easy. 1965 Plymouth Barracuda 273 M/SA 1970 Plymouth Duster 360/904 10.60s with J heads

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: 65signet] #1372680 01/22/13 06:12 PM 01/22/13 06:12 PM
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mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Quote: I have the TTI's on my 65 and the K frame fitment is good the T bars are the worse part, once the headers are in they fit good don't bang on anything and they flow great. When you install a big header in a small car its not always easy. I don't expect it to be easy but its good to know that it is doable,thanks 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

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