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Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers #1372658 01/20/13 11:57 AM 01/20/13 11:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Has anyone on here done this combo?I am talking about a small block auto with tti's step headers and the alter K.Problems? 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372659 01/20/13 02:29 PM 01/20/13 02:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX SB449VALIANT pro stock
SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX	It can be done, i dont have one myself but i have picx, i'll try to find them for you. Btw i know at least one in Fabo.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372660 01/20/13 02:46 PM 01/20/13 02:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Performance Only] #1372661 01/20/13 02:58 PM 01/20/13 02:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Quote: How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. I have a 65 cuda and wondered if going to an alter k might fix some of the intallation and clearance issues. 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372662 01/20/13 03:00 PM 01/20/13 03:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	Quote: It can be done, i dont have one myself but i have picx, i'll try to find them for you. Btw i know at least one in Fabo. Thanks,pics would be good. 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: mopartuner] #1372663 01/20/13 03:58 PM 01/20/13 03:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA Leon441 master
Leon441 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA	Any off the shelf header on an early A body (63-66) is going to be tough. Basically you have to understand your framerails are 2" closer together than later A bodies. I have never looked at a set of TTI headers on one of these but can only imagine how tight the fit will have to be. I would recommend running a BOBSPROFAB tubular front k-member with rack and pinion and coilover shocks. This will move all the problems out of the way. Then you have a lot more room. But, the best headers are going to be a custom built header. This is not inexpensive and I don't want to BS you in to believing it is. But, after you do this you would really have a nice front end and headers that would truely turn your somewhat basketcase Barracuda into a really nice user freindly car. I feel I can say this because I know these cars well. My car was a total headache to work on until I made these upgrades up front. Now I would not trade it for any other A-body. PM me if you have any detailed questions Leon Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Performance Only] #1372664 01/20/13 04:00 PM 01/20/13 04:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon V viperblue72 top fuel
viperblue72 top fuel V Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon	Quote: How early of an A body are we talking about? I put a set on a 66 dart with a 360 we built for it. The TTi's were a nightmare to install and keep from touching anything. In the future i'd rather build my own than deal with their product. What header wouldn't be a nightmare on a early A, other than fenderwell?

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: Leon441] #1372665 01/20/13 04:43 PM 01/20/13 04:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX SB449VALIANT pro stock
SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,418 Mcallen, TX	Quote: Any off the shelf header on an early A body (63-66) is going to be tough. Basically you have to understand your framerails are 2" closer together than later A bodies. I have never looked at a set of TTI headers on one of these but can only imagine how tight the fit will have to be. I would recommend running a BOBSPROFAB tubular front k-member with rack and pinion and coilover shocks. This will move all the problems out of the way. Then you have a lot more room. But, the best headers are going to be a custom built header. This is not inexpensive and I don't want to BS you in to believing it is. But, after you do this you would really have a nice front end and headers that would truely turn your somewhat basketcase Barracuda into a really nice user freindly car. I feel I can say this because I know these cars well. My car was a total headache to work on until I made these upgrades up front. Now I would not trade it for any other A-body. PM me if you have any detailed questions Leon . 7554593-image.jpg (288 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372666 01/20/13 04:44 PM 01/20/13 04:44 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372667 01/20/13 04:45 PM 01/20/13 04:45 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372668 01/20/13 04:46 PM 01/20/13 04:46 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372669 01/20/13 04:46 PM 01/20/13 04:46 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372670 01/20/13 04:47 PM 01/20/13 04:47 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372671 01/20/13 04:48 PM 01/20/13 04:48 PM
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Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1372672 01/20/13 08:33 PM 01/20/13 08:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	I like the AlterKtion because it eliminates the need for the stock upper shock mount. Mine is a '65 with W-9 heads. I started with a kit for late A body headers from Stahl and don't have pics of the finished product , but they turned out pretty O.K. The primaries are a couple inches longer than optimum and one tube on each side still goes outside the rails ( 7 & 8 ), but I got a good stretch of tube before the first bend. The steering shaft needs to come out for installing / removing them , but I am happy with the results. Not cheap either , but a lot cheaper than having them made....with flanges from SPD and the kit , I had around 650.00 into them. Got them coated locally and bartered on part of the price so I am into them for under 850 bucks......well under 1/2 price of having them built. 7554870-cooling&headers002.jpg (356 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372673 01/20/13 08:34 PM 01/20/13 08:34 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	another angle 7554873-cooling&headers005.jpg (397 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372674 01/20/13 08:36 PM 01/20/13 08:36 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	partial from pass side.........when I was done they looked nothing like the picture I was using for a reference. 7554878-cooling&headers003.jpg (364 downloads)

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372675 01/21/13 06:20 PM 01/21/13 06:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota !	Soooooo.. The undercar TTI's won't fit a car with a Alterkation suspension but, they would a stock set up ?

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: bigdad] #1372676 01/21/13 07:13 PM 01/21/13 07:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Soooooo.. The undercar TTI's won't fit a car with a Alterkation suspension but, they would a stock set up ? I bet they would , and are probably a nice choice for stock ports or maybe even W-2's. 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 " step would be marginal for my deal and hacking apart a 800.00 set of headers to use the W-9 flange and still having un-equal primary length factored into my decision too.

Re: Early A body with Alterkation and TTI headers [Re: tubtar] #1372677 01/21/13 07:25 PM 01/21/13 07:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,883 S.E. South Dakota !	post more pics of your project I had never seen it before this thread Please

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