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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: RylisPro] #1370052
11/04/14 02:03 PM
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What about a front motor plate?





Is anyone making one that works with the front cover? There was a discussion on FABO about this, I don't recall the outcome. Maybe do a search over there.


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-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: Barry70GTX] #1370053
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the Hemi and LS chevy motor mount bolt pattern on the block are the same,
just not in the same location

Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1370054
11/04/14 03:05 PM
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72Swinger, looks great! Thanks for the pics! Is your mount an upper link mount off a solid axle, like a Jeep or Superduty front axle of some sort?

Close, Ram 2500 lower control arm.


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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: Uhcoog1] #1370055
11/04/14 03:11 PM
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What about a front motor plate?





Is anyone making one that works with the front cover? There was a discussion on FABO about this, I don't recall the outcome. Maybe do a search over there.




It's easy enough to make one.

Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: Uhcoog1] #1370056
11/04/14 07:14 PM
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OK....Of I read you wrong then I apologise...I treat these posts as a general cautionary dialogue....not blanket assumptions.....

.........but for clarification...

There is no 'maybe' about our K frames....they were imported directly from the US along with the small block V8s from 1962 to 1980.

Thats the reason our steering box is on the frame...They didnt bother re- stamping the cross members....all the room is on your driver side.

Im not sure the motor positioning why these TTI adapters are not a a problem with a B Body.....again that seems to be a factor.

All I can say is we had to take 1/2" out of the height of the US Drivers side adapter to achieve a decent pinion angle and " straighten" the motor....the height of the left side adapter crushed the top rear of the motor against the firewall and angled the motor across the engine bay.

Re- the headers...Most seem to have clearance issues .......So TTI will have to wear that one on the chin.

Seems RTV was the issue with the milodon pan....so your pics will save some heartache!

Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: Uhcoog1] #1370057
11/10/14 02:58 PM
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What about a front motor plate?





Is anyone making one that works with the front cover? There was a discussion on FABO about this, I don't recall the outcome. Maybe do a search over there.




If you need gen3 motorplates, Ive got em in stock. Mike


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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: mr2performance] #1370058
11/11/14 12:38 AM
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After 2 years of abuse by 1000-1100 RWHP worth of boost and spray, the stock main caps may show some weakness.....


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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: 72Swinger] #1370059
11/11/14 12:54 AM
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Avoid Total Seal rings on a 4.065 bore.




Can I ask for more info here? I believe I have Total Seal rings in mine, pretty close to the same bore as well. Don't have any issues to my knowledge in a forced induction motor, about 660 at the tire (so a mild build by many peoples standards). I was going more for longevity than HP.

Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid,,,,,,,,, [Re: wegner426] #1370060
11/11/14 01:07 AM
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I need to re-quote myself a bit, avoid Manley spec Total Seal rings on Manley pistons.


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Intake gaskets [Re: 72Swinger] #1370061
11/11/14 08:16 PM
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It seems using the factory intake gaskets with aftermarket intakes results in the rubber lip around the gasket port dissolving and causing either an oil leak or a vac leak.

FelPro work well, as do Cometic. I'm told.....

Re: Intake gaskets [Re: Moparmal] #1370062
11/11/14 09:05 PM
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FelPro work well, as do Cometic. I'm told.....


part numbers please

/6 k mod [Re: mcat4321] #1370063
11/11/14 11:29 PM
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Will using the /6 k mod with the home made mounts work with the stock hemi pan? If not is there any way to make the use of the stock oil pan? That can save some cash; also for people (me) who don't like to mess with the TTY crank bolts by leaving the bottom end alone.

Re: /6 k mod [Re: roadrunninMark] #1370064
11/12/14 12:54 AM
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Sucks but, pans are either front or rear sump. A couple main cap bolts wont break the bank.


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Re: /6 k mod [Re: 72Swinger] #1370065
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I think the Hemi Durango's have a mid sump pan. ???


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Re: /6 k mod [Re: hemidup] #1370066
11/12/14 01:36 AM
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I think the Hemi Durango's have a mid sump pan. ???



They are kind of a rear/center hybrid lol. They are really deep overall and especially at the rear.


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Re: Intake gaskets [Re: mcat4321] #1370067
11/12/14 01:54 AM
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FelPro work well, as do Cometic. I'm told.....


part numbers please




Cometic C5197
Mopar Perf 5153758
Fel Pro MS96916

The Fel Pro looks a lot like the factory gasket with rubber o ring style lips - not sure Id trust it on a non- oem intake.

Re: Intake gaskets [Re: Moparmal] #1370068
11/22/14 05:39 AM
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After reading this post why would anyone build a performance 5.7...?? just to have a HEMI??


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Re: Intake gaskets [Re: 72N96RR] #1370069
11/23/14 10:30 AM
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After reading this post why would anyone build a performance 5.7...?? just to have a HEMI??




Because they are readily available and can be easily modified to handle big power.

Re: Intake gaskets [Re: 1badx] #1370070
11/23/14 06:10 PM
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After reading this post why would anyone build a performance 5.7...?? just to have a HEMI??




Because they are readily available and can be easily modified to handle big power.




It sounds as it comes with a high price from broken or inferior parts...I hope its worth the trouble and expense...badazz car by the way!!!!


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Re: Intake gaskets [Re: 72N96RR] #1370071
11/23/14 07:34 PM
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It sucks that the aftermarket hasn't offered an affordable "Gen III Hemi color by numbers" kit to the public. Im gonna get mine figured out and not look back.


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