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OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! #1366570 01/08/13 06:34 PM 01/08/13 06:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	I am thinking about taking advantage of the 10% off sale at summit! If I do I am thinking that I want to buy a set of ladder bars! What length do I need or go to? Would this be a good transformation over a snubber?

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366571 01/08/13 06:35 PM 01/08/13 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	If you are talking about BOLT-ON ladder bars???? NO WAY!!!!!!

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366572 01/08/13 06:37 PM 01/08/13 06:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	30-32" You literally cannot compare a snubber to a ladder bar. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1366573 01/08/13 06:39 PM 01/08/13 06:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	No these are weld in ladder bars!http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cee-2006

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Triple Threat] #1366574 01/08/13 06:41 PM 01/08/13 06:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	What's with the lenghts? The ones I am looking at are 32" competition engineering ladder bars!

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366575 01/08/13 06:43 PM 01/08/13 06:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Ladder bars are vastly superior to a snubber in every way. I would get the longest ones possible that will fit your application. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366576 01/08/13 06:46 PM 01/08/13 06:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,285 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,285 Bend,OR USA	I like and use the 1/4 Max brand 34 inch long set up with the curved upper bar to clear the floor regardless of which brand and length you select make sure it has the adjustable link on the bottom and switch to coil over rear suspension If your going to leave the leaf springs on instead of using coil overs make sure and buy a slider or floater set up for your rear end housing Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366577 01/08/13 06:46 PM 01/08/13 06:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Myself I would go with the 36" bars... its more leverage but either way you go you better buy good shocks with the bars(I'm talking a good adjustable shock)... but if your main hoop is farther back then the shorter bars will work but with less leverage

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Guitar Jones] #1366578 01/08/13 06:47 PM 01/08/13 06:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	What determines the length of the ladder bars for the car? It's a 1963 plymouth valiant. 7538688-396603_296502033801257_1145254348_n.jpg (72 downloads)

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366579 01/08/13 06:48 PM 01/08/13 06:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Quote: What determines the length of the ladder bars for the car? It's a 1963 plymouth valiant. The distance from the rear end housing to the crossmember that you install. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Guitar Jones] #1366580 01/08/13 06:52 PM 01/08/13 06:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,662 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Ladder bars are not going to be a simple project you know. From looking at your car you may be better off saving up your money and back halfing it with either ladder bars or my choice a 4 link. That way you can narrow the rear and tuck even larger tires into the wheel wells. But it is the snow ball effect and one thing just leads to another... "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366581 01/08/13 06:53 PM 01/08/13 06:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca M mikeysmopars top fuel
mikeysmopars top fuel M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca	I was a little dissapionted in summits options for ladder bars. They dont offer a much in the way of kits IMO I went to jegs and used thier starter kit info and had to piece together mine to get the discount. I wound up going with the c2005 ladder bars and adding all the parts to get it complete. I think it a 32" 0r 33" ladder bars and they are double adjustabls. Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366582 01/08/13 06:53 PM 01/08/13 06:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az. H hemicop super stock
hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	Think of ladder bars as a fixed four-link system. What you want is the upper & lower bars intersecting through an imaginary point as close to the center of the car as possible. Why? Too far forward & you exert too much leverage to plant the rear. Too far back & you're not exerting enough leverage to plant the tires fully. Now there IS some adjustment with them to allow for conditions, but generally that's how it works (I was taught). Now since you don't have the bars yet, hopefully this will help you decide on length as well as initial adjustment.

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Guitar Jones] #1366583 01/08/13 06:54 PM 01/08/13 06:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Before I would spend my money on ladder bars (cause your gonna need more parts besides the bars),I would spend it on other stuff like better carb,bigger headers,etc....Stuff like that cause the times your running now,you dont NEED ladder bars!!!!! Just my

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1366584 01/08/13 06:58 PM 01/08/13 06:58 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az. H hemicop super stock
hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	Good point ^. I was assuming he was looking further down the road & wanted to set the car up for more hp for later on.....

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: hemicop] #1366585 01/08/13 07:03 PM 01/08/13 07:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Im sure he is but he and his dad have ALOT of other things they need and should do BEFORE ladder bars.

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1366586 01/08/13 07:06 PM 01/08/13 07:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	This is very true.. I am kind of stuck now on what to do. I only have alittle over 300 bucks of extra cash to spend at the present moment and kind of figured that ladder bars would be another step in the right direction. Can't afford a carburetor. Unless I go with a main body and build it from there?? I could also order up a kit to make headers possibly for the money I got? LOL I don't know what to do!!!!

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Sb Valiant] #1366587 01/08/13 07:12 PM 01/08/13 07:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: This is very true.. I am kind of stuck now on what to do. I only have alittle over 300 bucks of extra cash to spend at the present moment and kind of figured that ladder bars would be another step in the right direction. Can't afford a carburetor. Unless I go with a main body and build it from there?? I could also order up a kit to make headers possibly for the money I got? LOL I don't know what to do!!!! $300 wont do you any good to just waste it on PART of what you would need... if you dont buy good adj shocks to go with the bars it wont help and you'll be pissed... tune what you have and save your money

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1366588 01/08/13 07:15 PM 01/08/13 07:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: Quote: This is very true.. I am kind of stuck now on what to do. I only have alittle over 300 bucks of extra cash to spend at the present moment and kind of figured that ladder bars would be another step in the right direction. Can't afford a carburetor. Unless I go with a main body and build it from there?? I could also order up a kit to make headers possibly for the money I got? LOL I don't know what to do!!!! $300 wont do you any good to just waste it on PART of what you would need... if you dont buy good adj shocks to go with the bars it wont help and you'll be pissed... tune what you have and save your money Ive been telling him that for a year!!!!

Re: OPINIONS ASAP PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1366589 01/08/13 07:22 PM 01/08/13 07:22 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA S Sb Valiant OP enthusiast
Sb Valiant OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 358 western PA	I know I know I need to get my head out of my a$$ and start listening to you and my mopar neighbor and he knows who he is!!!!

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