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Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? #1364762 01/05/13 05:14 PM 01/05/13 05:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci OP master
wally426ci OP master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	So far, I can only find white wall 235/75R15 in these 2 brands. I've always run BF Goodrich and I do not want Goodyear. What do you guys think of these 2 brands? I can't find white wall local so this was through Treaddepot

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364763 01/05/13 05:34 PM 01/05/13 05:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts MPerry Mopahts memba'
MPerry Mopahts memba' Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts	I hate cooper tires and have no experience with toyo. tire rack shows Goodyear eagle ls in that size whitewall. I'm not a big Goodyear fan but like them 100% better than cooper.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: MPerry] #1364764 01/05/13 05:37 PM 01/05/13 05:37 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Tire Rack.com has great reviews on almost every decent tire out there--I always find it very useful when I buy new rubber I always check the reviews on whatever my local guy is pushing--I have found them very informative and have been liking my tires better since started using that.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: ] #1364765 01/05/13 05:53 PM 01/05/13 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Have had great luck with Cooper tires over the years. Love them on my truck. Best thing since chains on ice and snow. Local G Goodyear store even sells Cooper over GY.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: MoparforLife] #1364766 01/05/13 06:23 PM 01/05/13 06:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts MPerry Mopahts memba'
MPerry Mopahts memba' Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts	Hmmm tire rack doesn't sell cooper tires I wonder why? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire-brand.jsp

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: MPerry] #1364767 01/05/13 06:53 PM 01/05/13 06:53 PM
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BadMoonRacer enthusiast Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 250 Iceland	Wally I tried Cooper once; and they lacked in the traction department. Switched to Firestone Indy Firehawks and they are fine. Your nearest Firestone dealer should be able to get them for you. As a side story; I bought the Firehawks while on a trip to the U.S. in 2005. You should have seen the looks on some passengers at the air terminals when I rolled them in for check in. I overheard one of them saying: "Look at that idiot, he�s bringing tires with him on the flight." Ragnar in Iceland. 66 Charger, 451, .582" lift, 11" conv. 4.10:1. 4118 lbs 11.75@117 mph on regular Firestone Firehawk radials. Icelandic Champion in MC 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2022.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: BadMoonRacer] #1364768 01/05/13 07:36 PM 01/05/13 07:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 337 Colorado 6 67plymouthman enthusiast
67plymouthman enthusiast 6 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 337 Colorado	Most of the Firestone Firehawks have been discontinued. Mickey Thompson are the way to go. IMO and I have had Cobras and BF- Cobras are better than BF.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364769 01/05/13 08:04 PM 01/05/13 08:04 PM
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5spdcuda top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A.	No experience with Toyo, but I have a set of 245x45x17 Coopers on my six cyl. Mustang. The Coopers are an all weather design that I use for spring, summer & fall, but I have dedicated winter tires on it for now. My experience with them is that they were easy to balance and didn't have a lot of road force. They have decent grip and when pushed to the cornering limits they lose traction in a nice linear, progressive and predictable manner. They have a pretty open tread that works well in the wet. The down side is that they are somewhat noisy. Not as bad as snow/mud tires on a 4x4 truck, but definitely louder than most everyday tires. The Kumhos on my 'Cuda are similar in price and have better ultimate grip, but they wear a lot faster. The Kumhos are also quieter. If you want a decent everyday tire at an OK price the Coopers should do it for you.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: 5spdcuda] #1364770 01/05/13 10:05 PM 01/05/13 10:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci OP master
wally426ci OP master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	Thanks guys, i'll look for some more options

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364771 01/05/13 10:23 PM 01/05/13 10:23 PM
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Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,522 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Unfortuneately most people do not care anymore, but here is my http://www.americanmadetires.com/ And from my experience I will NEVER buy another tire from Tire Rack! If you ever have a problem with a tire they will tell you it is YOUR FAULT! The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: Rhinodart] #1364772 01/05/13 11:28 PM 01/05/13 11:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	Id run maypops before Id ever have another BF Bad tire.. I am truckless..

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: Rhinodart] #1364773 01/05/13 11:34 PM 01/05/13 11:34 PM
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dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Quote: Unfortuneately most people do not care anymore, but here is my http://www.americanmadetires.com/ Cool, thanks for the link. I refuse to buy Chinese made tires.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364774 01/05/13 11:42 PM 01/05/13 11:42 PM
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SportF pro stock S Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,211 Minn	I have experience with Toyo. I got this screaming deal on slicks from Toyo. I posted about in the the race section about an even year ago. The slicks had different radius, and I couldn't keep the car on the track. It was a new car so I spent a bunch of money and time trying to fix the chassis when it was the tires. When I contacted the West coast rep (where I was working and racing at the time) said she couldn't do anything. But what she meant was she wasn't going to do anything. With like l2 bad passes on the tires I cut them up so no one else could wreck. But, I got a really good deal on them. 7534716-IMG_0024.JPG (199 downloads)

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364775 01/06/13 12:44 AM 01/06/13 12:44 AM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,034 NW Indiana deansrr top fuel
deansrr top fuel Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,034 NW Indiana	What are you putting the tires on? Doesn't Cooper or Toyo if your putting the wrong type of tire on! 1973 Road Runner 1974 Satellite (for sale) 1973 240z (wifes) 1993 Ramcharger (thanks Devil) 2002 Honda S2000

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: deansrr] #1364776 01/06/13 02:36 AM 01/06/13 02:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada megajoltman master
megajoltman master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada	I really like my Toyo tires balanced easy especially for a big tire and made in the US. Treaddepot is an excellent company, they not only matched but beat the cheapest price I could find and very fast shipping also. 1969 Dart 383/727/D60 CTD Ram 4x4 Mega Cab Procharged 350Z

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: megajoltman] #1364777 01/06/13 04:10 AM 01/06/13 04:10 AM
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mosweethemi mopar M Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 646 VA.	Hello I have put the Cooper Cobra,s on the last four cars that I have done. They or a very good tire. I run P235/70 on the front and P275/60 on the rear. 15x61/2 front rim and 15x8" rear rim. I have a set of Tiger Paws on my Hemi car for over 10. years.Also is a good tire. You would be happy with the Cooper Cobra,s Tire. Check at you local tire shop and see if they can get you a set. I think my last set was around $400.00 that was for 5 tires , put on and the works.The last cars that I did have been. 1965 Ply 426 Max Wedge , 1968 Ply Road Runner 440,1970 Road Runner 440 six pack,1970 Road Runner 440 six pack car. Thanks Moparts

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: megajoltman] #1364778 01/06/13 04:13 AM 01/06/13 04:13 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 685 Bismarck, ND USA C cageman mopar
cageman mopar C Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 685 Bismarck, ND USA	I have like 30 vehicles, and I have lets just say one of everything for tires, and some vehicles have had a few sets of tires on them. I am a cooper tire fan. I hate the firestones I have on two trucks, I hate the Good Years on my 95. I have a set of mastercraft tires on my diesel dude, When I first put the cummins in it I had fuzions on the front and Cooper zion something or the others on it, Those fuzions wore right out in no time. I ended up with the master crafts and I am very happy with them, I hear they are made by cooper. The next set will be Coopers again. I had toyos on a truck i sold, they were horrible, and yokahamas I really didnt like either on another truck I had. I have a truck with super swampers boggers on it, and they are an animal all their own. I think I have tried every brand of tire, and I always seem to go back to a cooper variant.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: cageman] #1364779 01/06/13 12:24 PM 01/06/13 12:24 PM
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rattler super stock R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 773 Crofton, Ky.	I have ran Coopers on my cars. The set of 14's that were on my GTX went bad one at a time. Over a couple of years, 3 of them broke belts. I just put some 15's on last year. We will see how they hold up. 7535180-P8200535.JPG (241 downloads) 1957 Dodge truck, Snakeskin Green with a little stroker motor. 1964 Plymouth Savoy wagon ( my new project)

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364780 01/06/13 01:15 PM 01/06/13 01:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,387 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,387 Pikes Peak Country	Avoid tire rack. Their focus is later model sizes. Check out Diamond Back Tire; http://www.dbtires.com/

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: TC@HP2] #1364781 01/06/13 01:35 PM 01/06/13 01:35 PM
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ireland383 super stock I Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 843 Suffolk,VA	Put some Cooper CS4 Tourings (USA) on the wife's Crv 10,000 miles ago and have been perfect with little to no wear. Decent traction also.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: ireland383] #1364782 01/06/13 02:00 PM 01/06/13 02:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts MPerry Mopahts memba'
MPerry Mopahts memba' Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts	Well I'm glad some of you are having luck with Cooper. However I have mounted and balanced 100's of Coopers for people that wanted cheap tires. Rarely have I had a Cooper balance well. 3-4 ounces of weight on average. I just had a Dodge Ram in the shop during our last snow storm. I had the truck in 4wd and it was sliding all over the place. I had to look at the tires to see what was on it and no surprise Cooper Discoverers with 8/32nd's of tread. I think Big Wheel tires get more traction!

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: MPerry] #1364783 01/06/13 03:58 PM 01/06/13 03:58 PM
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Secret Chimp super stock Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 817 Eugene, Oregon	My Coronet came with a nearly-new set of cheapish Coopers from Les Schwab (local tire chain). Two of them had a tread wobble inside of a few months (I thought my wheels were warped but no). Plus traction in colder/damper weather is so bad the rear end breaks loose in 1st gear... in the middle of acceleration... at over 3500 rpm... with a 2.91 rear end. And I only have a 109,000 mile 318 with a milder-than-a-340 cam. It never travels very far from home so I'm still rolling on them, but I'm not touching this brand with a ten foot pole with my own money. 1967 Dodge Coronet Deluxe station wagon 1.03" T-bars, QA1 arms/rods, Cordoba/GM Metric/Volare brake & knuckle, XHDs, Hellwig rear sway, 318 Magnum w/ air gap, 727, 3.23s

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: Rhinodart] #1364784 01/06/13 04:44 PM 01/06/13 04:44 PM
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savoy_63 master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,398 32034	Quote: Unfortuneately most people do not care anymore, but here is my http://www.americanmadetires.com/ And from my experience I will NEVER buy another tire from Tire Rack! If you ever have a problem with a tire they will tell you it is YOUR FAULT! Thanks for the link I always try to purchase domestic products!

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: 67plymouthman] #1364785 01/06/13 05:07 PM 01/06/13 05:07 PM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: Most of the Firestone Firehawks have been discontinued. Mickey Thompson are the way to go. IMO and I have had Cobras and BF- Cobras are better than BF. yeap, it looks I got them just right on time! With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: NachoRT74] #1364786 01/06/13 06:15 PM 01/06/13 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md	Ran Coopers on my son`s Mustang. The tires worn down quickly compared to other brands.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: MoparforLife] #1364787 01/06/13 08:14 PM 01/06/13 08:14 PM
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TOMRR super stock T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,013 LEE, MASS	Quote: Have had great luck with Cooper tires over the years. Love them on my truck. Best thing since chains on ice and snow. Local G Goodyear store even sells Cooper over GY.

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364788 01/06/13 08:17 PM 01/06/13 08:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA R Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel
Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA	Lessee...nip crap vs. US quality...hmmmm...tough decision...NOT! Rick

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #1364789 01/06/13 08:39 PM 01/06/13 08:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 905 SD Z zrxkawboy super stock
zrxkawboy super stock Z Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 905 SD	Cooper tires have been good to me. With that said, I always buy the top-shelf models, since I tend to keep my vehicles a long time. I have no experience with their cheaper models. It's Swifty! Swifty, you toad sucker!

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: zrxkawboy] #1364790 01/06/13 09:17 PM 01/06/13 09:17 PM
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red 69 runner member Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 88 pasadena,md	I got Cooper Cobras on my Road Runner,205/70/14 all the way around and they run great,never drive in the rain and only put about 1000 miles a year on the car.Just ordered new wheels and 4 new Cobras,225/70/15 front and 275/60/15 for the rear.Wheel Vintiques Magnum 500s,15x6 front and 15x8 rear.rear wheels are back ordered due to ship 1/29/13,front wheels showed up Saturday 2 days after ordering them,tires are due to be delivered tomorrow.wheels are from Summit and tires are from Discount tire direct from Ebay $208.00 a pair for the fronts and $256.00 a pair for the rear

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: ireland383] #1364791 01/06/13 09:21 PM 01/06/13 09:21 PM
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DynoDave master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,704 MICHIGAN	Quote: Put some Cooper CS4 Tourings (USA) on the wife's Crv 10,000 miles ago and have been perfect with little to no wear. Decent traction also. I have a set of CS4s on my Olds Cutlass. I think they are great. I've had 4 sets of Coopers on my daily drivers over the last decade or so. No complaints. DynoDave Walter P. Chrysler Club - Great Lakes Region Member # 12304 1970 Plymouth Duster 1972 Dodge Charger Rallye https://wichargerguy.proboards.com/ 1977 Chrysler Cordoba

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: Rhinodart] #1364792 01/06/13 09:39 PM 01/06/13 09:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci OP master
wally426ci OP master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	Quote: Unfortuneately most people do not care anymore, but here is my http://www.americanmadetires.com/ And from my experience I will NEVER buy another tire from Tire Rack! If you ever have a problem with a tire they will tell you it is YOUR FAULT! i would prefer american but this site wasn't clear....

Re: Opinion on Cooper Tires or Toyo? [Re: wally426ci] #1364793 01/07/13 01:40 AM 01/07/13 01:40 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 954 Chicago PurpleBeeper super stock
PurpleBeeper super stock Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 954 Chicago	I run Toyo tires on my Mustang and I've had very good luck with both sets I've used (80,000+ miles per set) with good traction, good handling and exceptional tread wear. Mine are Proxes II I think. 70 Roadrunner convt. street car 440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs '96 Mustang GT convt. street car '04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered "Officer, that button is for short on-ramps"

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