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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354506
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Is this car we speak of a Roadrunner?

It's nice when dudes will tap on the hood/deck lid expecting fiberglass and hear the sound of metal and not think anything of it that it is gutted on the inside. LOL. Fooled many a curious cat on the streets back when.
Sheee, I'd even take it further. I'd have the underside skeletal structure airbrushed back on to simulate panels still intact. A quick glance will not detect it.
I've patina aluminum to look like iron back when also. All fun in the eyes.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354507
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Yeah I agree with you, the car's going to get a CM bar as soon as I get the rest of the interior panels welded back in - doing those first so I can get to them. FWIW they cut out the inner quarter structure and bolted the windows up. Here's another "trick" from the car




Did you weigh the part that you cut out?? Just wondering what that weight was on it.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Troy] #1354508
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I'm sure he'll answer shortly but IIRC when I did my hood which was about 68 Lbs bone stock, it ended up being only 18 Lbs more or less taken off. This was of course way before I went Aluminum on the whole thing which took off a lot more.
In general, the undersides do not garner too much to break open the champagne, where as the real weight is in the flat lands panels of either the hood or deck lid. Every ounce counts as they say and its high and up front on the car.
The deck lid undersides on the other hand takes off little since its less real estate of skeletal structure. It is fun though and most importantly, Free. I'd do it if I were on a budget.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354509
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Is this car we speak of a Roadrunner?

It's nice when dudes will tap on the hood/deck lid expecting fiberglass and hear the sound of metal and not think anything of it that it is gutted on the inside. LOL. Fooled many a curious cat on the streets back when




Yes, it's a 69-1/2.

You can hear the difference in the deck lid if you pay attention. It sounds like metal yeah, but not like a deck lid should.

I'm going to clean it up under there and just paint it.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Troy] #1354510
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Did you weigh the part that you cut out?? Just wondering what that weight was on it.




No idea what it weighed, it was done long before I got the car. It couldn't have saved much, but you know how it is, to lose 100 pounds you have to lose a pound in 100 places.

The dashboard had been trimmed to where it was basically a flat sheet of metal, all non-visible metal was trimmed back. They even gutted the ash tray and riveted what was left back to the dash.

I did not scale the car as it sat when I bought it, but the bar I cut out had to weigh more than the metal they cut out.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354511
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BTW they also cut out the underside of the cowl, then cut out and welded over the wiper holes and louvers on the top. That always seemed like a waste of effort compared to just deleting the wiper linkage and motor but leaving the cowl as it was.

I'm trying to find a creative way to make that waterproof because it's got to go back in - we've got an annual safety inspection here, and it won't pass without wipers. Get noticed on the street with no sticker, then they'll notice no wipers, and would probably impound my car.

I've got an entire upper and lower cowl to use but if I could get away with not patching the lower cowl panel back in it'd be a lot less work.

FWIW, see image for the evidence of the culprit. I asked Arlen about it once and gave me the answer I expected, they were just old cars and it's what the customer wanted.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354512
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Some really cool history there.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354513
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I don't know about that, it's really just an old worn out bracket car with a fancy VIN

I've only noticed one place where the body is tweaked - there's a crack in the roof at corner of the passenger side rear window. It's not a post car so that's no surprise. I guess it was plenty stiff enough even with all the metal cut out of it - with the bar in. The car was modified in about 76 and was raced regularly from then until I ended up with it.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354514
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Happy Holidayz to everyone crazy enough to hang to this real Madmen forum. LOL.

Funny, just read an editorial tonight that a wheel company (Delux Wheels) is producing what looks like a stock steel wheel sought of hubcap out of stamped aluminum that can be snapped onto an existing wheel.
Will it fit a 15" or 14" for that matter? the shadow only knows.
Either way, they've capitalized on what I have already done quite a few years back using an existing Weld wheel.
They just now have to stamp out a whole wheel and then they just may get some orders.

Anyway, will continue to plug away here and come back with some new news. Stay tuned.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354515
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I don't know about that, it's really just an old worn out bracket car with a fancy VIN

I've only noticed one place where the body is tweaked - there's a crack in the roof at corner of the passenger side rear window. It's not a post car so that's no surprise. I guess it was plenty stiff enough even with all the metal cut out of it - with the bar in. The car was modified in about 76 and was raced regularly from then until I ended up with it.




Is this the car that b body bob had?

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Jeremiah] #1354516
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Got a few items coming down the disassemble line. Holding out for the big picture. But in the meantime, waiting to get a moment off work to reinstall the most important part of it all, my Thumperized carburetor. Can't wait and for another thread anyway.
Spring is coming, so spring into action fellas.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354517
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In between my madness and trying to get back on the grinding block to lighten the load, I figured why not show an item that if I were to build a F.A.S.T or just lightweight Maximum Wedge, these aluminum alloy babies would be in charge of exiting the exhaust charges. Exit, stage left.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354518
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The A990 apron, all 19 Lbs of it ready to trial mount and final sand while on car.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354519
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In between my madness and trying to get back on the grinding block to lighten the load, I figured why not show an item that if I were to build a F.A.S.T or just lightweight Maximum Wedge, these aluminum alloy babies would be in charge of exiting the exhaust charges. Exit, stage left.




Curious to see if those work out.

Real world application vs. beautiful sculpture..

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Well, the industry has come a long way since the wicked Witch from the West melting aluminum exhaust headers formed for the Swiss cheese Catalina's.
The aluminum now being used is of the T-356 type and can probably take more heat. I still would be nervous with them taking full open throttle bursts up and down the track. For the money, I'd rather opt for Titanium exhaust tubes that can take the heat and are most probably just as light because of the thinner gauge construction. For now, I'll stick with my thin steel headers.

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Well, I took a hooky break to install my titanium front wheel lug studs on the aluminum brake drum hub. Saved almost 12 ounces or 3/4 Lb between the both sides.
A few other things that I have done at the beginning of the Winter has now put the car solidly in the upper 3000 LB mark. For now, I'll exorcise it from its cave and have some limited fun in the sun during the season. It will be within striking distance of 2900 lbs by next Spring. That will be my cap.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1798147
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those titanium studs look great, and for what they cost they outta!

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Well, the industry has come a long way since the wicked Witch from the West melting aluminum exhaust headers formed for the Swiss cheese Catalina's.
The aluminum now being used is of the T-356 type and can probably take more heat. I still would be nervous with them taking full open throttle bursts up and down the track. For the money, I'd rather opt for Titanium exhaust tubes that can take the heat and are most probably just as light because of the thinner gauge construction. For now, I'll stick with my thin steel headers.


I'd imagine the titanium tubes would be a lot louder. Just like the thinner (old school Hooker headers used thinner gauge (for more internal area than competing brands), and were noticeably louder... and in my opinion sounded worse... they sounded cheap. A thin, strong titanium pipe would have to be louder. It was an eye-opener when i replaced my Mustang's (non-stock) mild steel tails with the factory (same size) stainless. The factory SS was thick, and thats why they sound really good. A really thin SS (or thinner yet titanium) would sound more like a cheap header. IF... ov course, that matters to you. I am as anal and obsessive about weight as even you are (believe it), but i DO draw the line at sound. Its gotta sound good.

Just a thought.

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Sounding cheap means there's no good parts on the car and you'll lure in the big fish at a $$ race. LOL.
Titanium headers don't have to be thinner in gauge, its just their cost is out of this planet even for a guy like myself that saves up for the anticipation.
Quite honestly, my headers in which Kooks designed and fabricated are rather light and were not too expensive compared to some that are cheaper in cost and do not function as good. They are stepped.
Sometimes, the engine compartment in different cars radiate more engine racket and or heat then others.
When talking about sound at the tail end of the exhaust system, that strongly depends on the X pipes and their position within the system along with a good size flow thru muffler. The Salsa band sound could be pretty decent.
My all aluminum constructed mufflers actually made my car much quieter. That being said, I was actually liking more the rapidy-rap sound of before.

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If I smoked I would have to say this would be for my lightweight Camel lights. LOL
This is what's happening deep during my occasional time off. It will shave a whopping 1/4 pound off the dash. LOL.
Sorry guys, I guess images will have to wait since the change has thrown everything into a mixer. [img]http://[/img]

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