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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354486
11/04/14 12:57 PM 11/04/14 12:57 PM
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Fellas, It's Fall and soon to be Winnnnter.
Break out the drill bits, Hole saws, Hack saws, Plasma cutters, Die grinders, Scales and Diet binders.
Let the lightest car float away.LOL.



Maybe YOU hide during the winter but my Chicago born self comes alive and the et`s come a droppin..............

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354487
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Crazy as it sounds, I am in the process of switching to a Thermoquad from a Proform 750 double pumper.

I weighed both carbs.;

Proform = 10 lbs.

TQ = 5 lbs.



The Proform had gas in the bowls (couple ozs. maybe) but either way it's essentially double the TQ. Obviously the phenolic bowls are where the weight savings are but still, 5 lbs is a lot.

Lighter, more total CFM and cooler fuel = large bucket of win!

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354488
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Crazy as it sounds, I am in the process of switching to a Thermoquad from a Proform 750 double pumper.

I weighed both carbs.;

Proform = 10 lbs.

TQ = 5 lbs.



The Proform had gas in the bowls (couple ozs. maybe) but either way it's essentially double the TQ. Obviously the phenolic bowls are where the weight savings are but still, 5 lbs is a lot.

Lighter, more total CFM and cooler fuel = large bucket of win!




I wouldn`t pick a carb based on weight myself. I`ve built T-Q`s that ran hard but prefer Holleys.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354489
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I wouldn`t pick a carb based on weight myself.



I didn't, just thought it was useful to note the difference. Guess I really had a hankering to try it and see what it would do, the weight was just an added bonus.

I get what you are saying though, most guys wouldn't consider a TQ unless they were running a stocker or something.

Besides, they're probably limited in how far you can take them and how much they will support. I mean, no one is putting a TQ on any serious combos because they had a hankering to do it.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354490
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I get it. These days it`s just making more sense to get a modern tuneable billet block/body carb where you can tweek the different curcuits but TQ`s can run hard..........

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354491
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My new carb of a few years back was 9-1/2 pounds dry compared to the old one at 11 pounds.
The small carb Victor 440 intake was also lighter then the outgoing M1 by 1 pound. Along with the Titanium bolts, nuts and studs was another 1/2 pound or so if IIRC.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354492
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Just found another trick that my resident co-conspirator friend Special K mentioned.
On cars with the pot metal lower fender Pentastars, change 'em to the 66' and later plastic Pentastars.
An ounce right there. LOL. Serious!
Though he thinks I'm a looney with this stuff, look at what he's thinking about lately. Who's looney now. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354493
11/12/14 03:56 AM 11/12/14 03:56 AM
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #1354494
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In between during some hooky from work, I painted my trans member gloss white for visual inspections before and after races aside from general street usage.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354495
11/23/14 02:26 AM 11/23/14 02:26 AM
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Anyone happen to have an extra pair of early B-body roofsail headliner tacking strips to weigh on the scale?

These are the galvanized metal ones with the built in spikes/hooks to keep the headliner up and tight.
I'm scheming for some inventions at the moment. Yes, they weigh IIRC.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354496
12/02/14 10:46 AM 12/02/14 10:46 AM
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Winters here and a host of ideas coming down the pipeline. My camera has hit the wall, so I can't post pics as of yet.
Maybe some of you'll have some schemes brewing in the Hornets nest.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354497
12/03/14 02:49 AM 12/03/14 02:49 AM
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Spyshot of light weight conversation.The 3 professors

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #1354498
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Hemi-itis only posted this to keep from giving up the conversation on his own long awaited lightweight plans for his Plymouth.
LOL, Yep, he caught me playing Hooky for a change with the fellas before a long Winter.
That's Curtis Jr. aka "Glasses" in the middle. Vice Pres of The Brooklyn Dodges, ace Tree cutter at the track and owner of some pretty stout semi-lightweight real deal street driven Mopars.
How fast?
Only his shadow knows.LOL.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354499
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In all honesty, my projected target of 2999 Lbs is going to be a bundle to achieve even though I'm so close. 1600 ounces is not easy.
This last 100 + Lbs will take some miracle in the form of ultra lightweight factory parts that are the likes of unobtainium or affordable. And I thought Titanium was expen$ive. LOL.
I'm going to take a last thorough peak this Winter at this cars skeletal and see what is screaming kryptonite. Keep an ear or a keen eye.
Here we go.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354500
12/04/14 02:38 AM 12/04/14 02:38 AM
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Lee, I don't remember seeing it here in this thread so I'll ask - did you/would you swiss cheese the sills? You can hide the holes under the sill plates. Might be a pound or two there.

My winter lightening project is to build a new motor. Might even shave a few pounds with a cast crank.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354501
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Yeah, I swissed them a little whiles back. Now hidden under the plates.
A pound was lost when all was said and done. I only did that cause of the presence of a roll bar tide in at 12 points.

Blueprint that new motor and get light from within. It will spin better and live.
Wish I would have shaved off my motor mounting ears when I had it out of the car. Pound there for sure. Kinda tight to get to right now.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354502
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Speaking of losing weight on the crank, you did read about Ford using a flat crank in the 2015 Mustang variant V8's. That has to take more weight off than just using a cast crank. Evidently they worked out the harmonics problem.... and I didn't read anything about separate balance shafts either. I'm waiting to see that become the big thing in performance engines.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354503
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Yeah, I swissed them a little whiles back. Now hidden under the plates.
A pound was lost when all was said and done. I only did that cause of the presence of a roll bar tide in at 12 points.



My roadrunner was cut that way 40 years ago, and it didn't bend anything with an 8-pt bar in it with very front and rear legs just bolted down.

Arlen Vanke treated the car like the stamping contours were cut-here lines. (No, wasn't one of his cars, was just prepped in his shop)

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: booger] #1354504
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That's a fair amount of material taken off there.
That's good it didn't start morphing since its one of the strongest points of the car and should not be tampered with without knowledge as to what to do.
I was just too nervous back when to do it till I had a good welded in Roll bar system to help gusset the body and frame.
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Yeah I agree with you, the car's going to get a CM bar as soon as I get the rest of the interior panels welded back in - doing those first so I can get to them. FWIW they cut out the inner quarter structure and bolted the windows up. Here's another "trick" from the car

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