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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354346
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All I can say is that there are some really cool items being made undercover here in Michigan.

Love the Mopar cats out here, fast forward and forward thinker tinkerer's.

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Center ring on stock hub




Who is RON ?


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Ron who?

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354349
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This ThReAd is effecting me


HEMI-ITIS has no cure.
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Oh no, we've got another patient in ICU.
ICU have being bitten by this bug.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354351
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Just got back from Chi-town and The Motor City. Lets just say, there's a lot more other than Corn being harvested on the plains of Michigan just out side of Detroit.
Picked these babies up from another Nutty Professor and can't wait to install them sometime this Fall.
Saving 1-1/4 Lbs when done.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354352
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What's up with these "one offs" instead of 3 offs?????????


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #1354353
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They are available. In fact, I was reminded that Ti64 makes a few items of interest.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354354
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I saved a bunch of weight when I got rid of all the rust and old grease from my front end. Ti cam bolts or not, clean parts weigh less.

Seriously, on my car, there was decades of dirt built up in the little shelf under the control arm mounts. It was a pain to get it all out of there. Probably good for several ounces.

On a related note, stock UCAs are lighter than fancy bling aftermarket tubing types.

Would urethane bushings weigh less than rubber?


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354355
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Urethane would probably weigh a little less, but not much. It depends on the size and function of the bushing. Since some of us may be watching ounces now, then any little bit would help.

RMCHR, I differ on the arms. I weighed my stock UCA's with bushings and all a ways back compared to the Magnum Tubular arms with bushings and all, and the Tubes were lighter.
My stock pair of arms weighed 10-1/2 lbs and the Tubes weighed 8-1/4 as a pair. Saved 2-1/4 Lbs total. This might be that the Tubes have Urethane. My lower factory stock control arms have the stock rubber bushings though.
I just had made a couple of small items that saved a few ounces.
I'm now at 126 ounces into 1600.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354356
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Here's the Titanium upper hinge bolt and nut for the Brake bar. Note the neat machining step down process and rolled treads that Met-Tec performs. Saves a whopping 1.55 ounces.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354357
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Urethane would probably weigh a little less, but not much. It depends on the size and function of the bushing. Since some of us may be watching ounces now, then any little bit would help.

RMCHR, I differ on the arms. I weighed my stock UCA's with bushings and all a ways back compared to the Magnum Tubular arms with bushings and all, and the Tubes were lighter.
My stock pair of arms weighed 10-1/2 lbs and the Tubes weighed 8-1/4 as a pair. Saved 2-1/4 Lbs total. This might be that the Tubes have Urethane. My lower factory stock control arms have the stock rubber bushings though.
I just had made a couple of small items that saved a few ounces.
I'm now at 126 ounces into 1600.




Wow, I'm surprised, that's a lot of weight off in the upper a arms. I was under the impression that the stamped part would be lighter than pieces of tubing welded together. Guess it would also depend on what material the tubular a arms are made of and if there is any extra gusseting and welding.

Though I never weighed them, the UCAs on my Dustpan are pretty light, like next to nothing. I handled them a lot when I re-did 'em, I was surprised how light they were. I did consider getting aftermarket ones for a while but didn't think it would provide much benefit for what they cost.

Perhaps there is a difference with A body vs. B body or small ball joint vs. large.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354358
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Funny that I ran by a brand new set of Magnum tubular arms at the Nats and picked them up in my hands to trigger my mental scale as to how light they are since mine have been on the car since when they first fell into market and they were light indeed.
The Tubular arms are made out of Chrome-moly and for that, they may be able to built them utilizing a thinner wall with a few gussets to make 'em stronger then the stockers.
The stockers are light as well, but just a tad more then the Tubulars.

Not sure if there is a difference from A to B UCA's or if small bolt pattern vs big bolt patterns is the smoking gun, but the extra cam and caster that the tubulars give you is what really sold me on top of the weight.
On another note, there might be a new light weight Alloy Dana 60 rear that's coming into market and I saw the prototype at the Nats. Beautiful and Goliath looking? Yes.
Suspect I am? yes, but it was neat indeed with all the strong points in all the right places and supposedly 50-80 Lbs lighter. Reminds me of the magic Mopar Performance 8-3/4 Alloy Pumpkin that came out years back. We'll see because as we all know, that Eureka Vacuum cleaner salesman always had all the answers and magic products at the door.
I'll try and post a flick later.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354359
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Flicks of the new Jolly Light Giant.
I must admit, the unit looked stout and precision made to the max. Stock looking? Maybe not so if left in it's bare suit color.
Painted semi gloss black or gloss black, youuuu could probably get away with it to the untrained eye.
Anyway, hung and chatted with some of the savviest in the business, The F.A.S.T crowd and believe you me, I was on trial. Anything you say or don't say can and will be used against you in a court of Yore. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354360
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Rear end view of the rear end.
That cast cover is probably heavier than the rear itself.
A Moroso stamped stock looking featherweight Anodized aluminum cover could give it points towards a stock alibi and be much lighter.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354361
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Reminds me of the magic Mopar Performance 8-3/4 Alloy Pumpkin that came out years back.




You mean like this one?


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Sure thang, sure shock.
I was going to spring for one when I was comfortable with an 3/4, but unavailability and rumors set me off on another route. Some here swear by the alloy 3/4, but it seems like they are as rare as a Ramcharger's Magnesium rear.
When I started to flirt with Dana, I knew I had my work cut out for me in making the most of it while keeping lighter than most others sans a spool.
I think Trick Titanium will make a replica Dana of some sort but with only a small deposit of 70 grand up front. That folks is REAL WORLD COSTS.
By the way, in keeping true to this threads title about costs, the alloy Dana I just saw is going for $3850 ready to bolt in with any size gear ratio, True Trac, 35 spline axle, bearings and either Mopar or Ford axle ends on Extra thick DOM axle tubes. Perches included.
No I'm not a salesman for them, more of a Newsbreaker.
Just the facts Man.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354363
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RMCHR. Your flick post just reminded me that I was thinking how this Dana would keep it's R&P from spitting itself out of the case without a studded or through bolt system like the 3/4 alloy unit has. Then again, I recently saw someone have a major breakage with their alloy 3/4 rear.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354364
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142 ounces towards 1600. This sh#t is hard at this point.Post flicks soon.

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Forgot to include these from a while ago that was part of a NO COST AT ALL initiative.
Now you see it.................

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