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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354146
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Glad you finally got that number! Its lighter than my portly small block A body as well.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Triple Threat] #1354147
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Yeah, some, some A-bodies are light right off the bat, and some need a pat on the back.
My Dana is lighter than most, but still an anchor and combined with the 12 pt rollbar is adding an extra 100 pounds or so, but it's insurance.
Dr Diff went to great lengths to shave off some ounces here and there.

Maybe some aluminum drums will find there way into production. Wishful thinking unless you go the GM conversion route.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354148
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Here are the glove box hinge assemblies before they meet their fate. Fate as in, serving as templates for aluminum versions. When I get that moment, I'll fabricate and post.
I'm already 10 ounces into a 1,600 ounce count. stay tuned. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354149
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What is your car painted with... base/clear? A single
stage is worth 50# savings

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1354150
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I know that paint weight can add up quickly especially with multiple coats.
My car is painted with single stage concept Black. It pretty much covers entirely with one coat. My painter loves to use featherweight Bondo and then sand it down till there's pretty much nothing left except in the minute imperfections. Then he does it again. He's a mad man. He dollies the metal out to perfection for days on end before he applies any body putty.
I should lose 25 + pounds when I hang the 990 fenders.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354151
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I know that paint weight can add up quickly especially with multiple coats.
My car is painted with single stage concept Black. It pretty much covers entirely with one coat. My painter loves to use featherweight Bondo and then sand it down till there's pretty much nothing left except in the minute imperfections. Then he does it again. He's a mad man. He dollies the metal out to perfection for days on end before he applies any body putty.
I should lose 25 + pounds when I hang the 990 fenders.




So have you figured up your dollar per pound savings...
MY opinion you went WAY OVER BOARD.. your dollar per
pound has got to be way up there.... but carry on..
its your car and your doing what you want

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1354152
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Oh man, I'm way over budget. I'm about to publish a small booklet entitled "How to cheat and stay married while keeping the car" LOL.

The pound per dollar puts me at a deficit much broader than Michigan.

All kiddin' aside. I knew going into it that I was going to be over budget, but you can't buy the experience and fun in it. It keeps it all refreshing and lively where many of my friends have gotten bored and sold there cars in regret.
Don't say this at home within ear shot of your other half, but this is what I call, "The Dating Game" with your car.LOL.
I will probably spend what a real 2% car costs and there were only four of those, but I'm building one of none myself, as I would have if I was in the development labs of Chrysler back in the day.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not setting myself up for a sucker punch to buy just about anything at any price, I do shop around and I do barter a lot of stuff for this thing to which has morphed into a piece of art at this point. It's sought of a collaboration with many people. If a cat has a talent or finesse to make,sell a beautiful lightweight product, then he deserves that respect. Case in point, I'm impressed with the new A-body dashboard made by B1Cuda which some cats are plucking down the modest dollars for the piece.

On another front, sometimes just to have a little relax from the madness of my line of work, I'll pre plan in my head of buying a $20 dollar K-member bolt out of Titanium and know that the car and my Hot Rodding are achieving a goal one bolt at a time. I just want to eventually have a very modest engine and fly while keeping the hobby alive and well.

In the intern, most of my friends who have laughed, hissed, and grumbled about what I've done or perceived to have done come to me for advise when they want to shed the fat off of their fifth car. I'm still on my first and only.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354153
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There are way worse things to over spend on. If it brings you pleasure it's worth the price of admission.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354154
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3150 is not to bad for a Big car like that. Keep at it.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1354155
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What is your car painted with... base/clear? A single
stage is worth 50# savings than a single stage?



How does a B/C paint job weigh 50 lbs more than a single stage?

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dannysbee] #1354156
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There are way worse things to over spend on. If it brings you pleasure it's worth the price of admission.
WORD!

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Sport440] #1354157
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When it reaches its Barmitz-car at 2999 lbs, it will truly be a hallmark moment.
Some guys are thrilled at getting a 9.99 ET slip. All I want for next Christmas is a 2999 Lb. slip.
151 lbs left to go. No, no Aluminum engine block.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354158
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The plastic headlamps being talked about on here are next. I was on the fence for a while (Few years)about these because I wasn't sure that they were compatible with the existent electrical system.
Ounces or perhaps a 1/2 pound off the very front end.
After this, I have to ask congress for another bail out loan to continue the program.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354159
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I had read somewhere that the plastic lights really weren't any lighter. Although I do not recall the source and never saved a link.


I have been doing some trimming myself. Got a gym membership and I'm down 15 lbs


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I have been doing some trimming myself. Got a gym membership and I'm down 15 lbs




By far the best place to cut weight. Congrats

As for the headlight debate, a few members who are highly detail oriented and weight conscious have said there are pounds to be saved so I believe them.


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Not necessarily true. I weighed the headlamps a while back and if memory serves me well because I do not have my notes in front of me, they were like about a pound, pound and a half between both. So as far as weight, it will be about 1/2 to 1/4 pound shavings.
Glass lights are not that heavy, but I'm a turd for ounces, so I'll count them in anyway. I think I shaved more by going with the A-990 grill facelift because two headlamps were terminated all together and my now singles have the high and low beam feature.

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Just got my interior trim pieces and front grille valance from the Dipper. Shaved 4 lbs off total. The interior headliner trim pieces are super feather weight now.
Off to be neutralized and primer sealed so that the solution doesn't keep munching on the metal.
Anybody get a heavier weight reading from their Passenger right side front ends?
Just wondering if the engine offset to the right is the reason.

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Just got my interior trim pieces and front grille valance from the Dipper. Shaved 4 lbs off total. The interior headliner trim pieces are super feather weight now.
Off to be neutralized and primer sealed so that the solution doesn't keep munching on the metal.
Anybody get a heavier weight reading from their Passenger right side front ends?
Just wondering if the engine offset to the right is the reason.



Lee first congrats on you ambitious program. Now for your diagonal weights. LF/RR 1224lb, RF/LR 1899lb. Adding tension to either the LF torsion bar or increasing the RR spring rate will help. Technically the car is pivoting on the RF/LF axis. As you add load the LR/RF axis will become lighter and the LF/RR axis will become heavier. In the case of a drag car adding load to the RR is preferred.
Here's a look at mine w/driver.
Car in race trim w/o driver 3121lbs.



LF 926 RF 878

LR 745 RR 764

Front 1804lbs 54.5%
Rear 1509lbs 45.6%
Cross 1623lbs 49%

Total 3313 lbs w/me
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Thank you DV.
I had a hunch that the bars were suspect to be adjusted though a friend did not think so. I do have one of the adjusting T-bar bolts way down (adjusted out)on the driver side much, much more than the passenger side. I think I have to slip the bar out and inserted back into the nest in the right orientation to get that adjusting bolt back up in the adjuster block.
I will adjust and see where the scales read.
In the mean while I'll continue on the ounce campaign.
People seeing me walking around with all types of scales probably think suspect of my doings, especially at night. LOL.

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Most of you have done this but the master cylinder swap to aluminum is worth 5.29 lbs.

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