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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353646
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Rome wasn't built or leveled in a day.
It sounds like that old school Pro-stock scoop would work better and streamline better as well. Take a chill and go onto another part of the car and return to the hood later.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353647
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The pro stock scoop is history and am not interested in going backwards so my old scoop will suffice for now and like I said, afr`s were rock solid at 12.8 at wot sealed up and un sealed it was all over the map. I got a bit crazy thinking that I need to chang EVERYTHING at once...........not good so back to basics so I can hit the track.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353648
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I hear ya.
Good AFR's are hard to find.
I'm trying to find the numbers on mine this coming season with my parachute of a scoop. I have some ideas brewing within the scoop itself.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353649
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This is some crazy stuff...............today I filled holes in and re-fitted my hood and still not sure about a windshield yet as far as lexan or stock glass. Thankxxx 4 the inspiration Lee even though it`s kickin my butt.............


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353650
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Great things with their fun don't come so easy as contradicting as that sounds.
A windshield out of 3/16 Lexan or percy's speed glass will save you a few pounds high and forward of the CG. I lost about 18-1/2 pounds with mine. Original shield was 30 Lbs, Lexan was 11-1/2 Lbs.
Installed with a new original factory seal and only a few screws on the corners under the seals for safe keeping. It was also molded to within a micro inch of the original glass shape. At 3/16, no center support brace is needed even at high speeds.
If you or anyone goes that route, make sure to use self tap screws where you can control the amount of pressure as the screw is turned in, so as to not give away the trick with natural warpage that the Lexan will show at those points if too much pressure from the screws is applied.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353651
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Damn boy, do you ever sleep? My windshield weighs 22 lbs. apparently minus rubber so what am I really saving here any idea.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353652
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I lost a little over 50% of the weight on mine. I would say that you would stand to shave a good 11-12 pounds with the Lexan.
Look if Percy's speed glass has molded ones in stock of if they can do it for you on a call in basis. Those A-bodies are very popular. It's well worth it in the end. You would also have to apply a good sealant all along the windshield brim to make sure it all seals against leaks.

Good luck.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353653
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I lost a little over 50% of the weight on mine. I would say that you would stand to shave a good 11-12 pounds with the Lexan.
Look if Percy's speed glass has molded ones in stock of if they can do it for you on a call in basis. Those A-bodies are very popular. It's well worth it in the end. You would also have to apply a good sealant all along the windshield brim to make sure it all seals against leaks.

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I`ll call em and see but if it`s only 10-12 lbs, I may just pass...........we`ll see. Hopefully I will finish the hood today and paint it and move on to the alum. bolts that a guy can get me here locally................


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353654
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yeah, this is where weight reduction becomes more of a pocket science on the plus or minus side.
Where as taking front seats off and replacing with either factory race or fiberglass seats will cost anywhere between $100-500 Dollars to shave off 80-100 lbs is logical as compared to replacing a windshield that could cost $200-300 Dollars just to remove 10-20 lbs.

Pick the battles carefully. It can get costly but still probably not as much for a mega motor to pull all the weight while needing constant maintenance.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353655
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Called Pearcys and it`s $480.00 to shed maybe 12-14 lbs. on the windshield so we`ll see still have other stuff to mess with.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353656
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Thats a lot of money for so little benefit. Also from some of the guys I know that race at night ,the speed glass still gets scratches that make it hard to see at night, not noticeable during the day.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353657
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Though pricey, it would fit much better and look even better with a molded piece.
The flat stock Lexan or the molded piece both need patience when installing, but the molded piece will come out much better and be super stealthy. Plus Percys applies there coating on the shield that helps against scratching and blemishes much better than naked lexan.
I think I paid 350 for my windshield from Kramers Automotive specialties like 9 years back and it still looks like new, no windshield wipers though.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353658
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Called Pearcys and it`s $480.00 to shed maybe 12-14 lbs. on the windshield so we`ll see still have other stuff to mess with.




my cuda windshield was 22lbs and it broke when we were putting it in, my friend that works at a glass shop got a replacement for $69 and it weighed 19lbs


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: sixpackgut] #1353659
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Called Pearcys and it`s $480.00 to shed maybe 12-14 lbs. on the windshield so we`ll see still have other stuff to mess with.




my cuda windshield was 22lbs and it broke when we were putting it in, my friend that works at a glass shop got a replacement for $69 and it weighed 19lbs


Send me one............UN broken pleezzee..........


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Sixpack. Of course you know that ThumperD was talking about a Lexan treated windshield which is way lighter.
Though I totally understand the tight budgets that may not allow such a thing. I had to save a few pennies for a while just to get my 18 Lbs exorcised from my car.
!9 lbs does sound better than 22 Lbs in real glass form.

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Still thinking about the windshield................. A local guy will cut me an 1/8th windshield today for a $150.00 but that seems way too thin so maybe the smarter move would be ft. racing tires..........less rotating AND un sprung weight for a lot less money which is getting real thin..............

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353662
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Yeah, for sure I would not recommend 1/8 for the windshield. 3/16 is it which is more or less a micro under the standard thickness of tempered factory windshield glass. strong and light.
1/8 is too thin and will bow inwards at speed.
The front tires sound like a sound way to get rid of that nasty rotating weight. Kind of like comparing Good cholesterol to bad cholesterol.
If you go the route of Lexan with a flat sheet, you'll have to cut very careful making sure that you do not cut over the actual size especially when asking the Lexan to bend to and fit into the radius of the windshield brim. You'll have to use more or less set screws through out the whole brim to help keep the flat sheet in place and shape. Good luck.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353663
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I didn't do the windsheild in Lexan.All the other windows were 1/8" (except the vents 1/4"). I ended up screwing a piece of 1/2" x.100" aluminum angle to the bottom of the side windows to keep them straight. The back light is 1/8" mounted in the stock rubber. My wife got me a roll of the paper they put on the tables in doctor exam rooms. I taped it to the O.E. glass and cut a template. Looks like glass. I agree I wouldn't have tried it on the windshield.
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Yes, 1/8 is super fine for the side windows and including the back light. It can also work on the vents but an extra thick rubber gasket has to be made to compensate for the void.
What I ended up doing was using the original tracks and cranks (all lightened of course)and mounting the 1/8 to that by modifying where they sit in the tracks with a special piece of aluminum and gaskets to have them roll up and down. I'll post some pictures soon to visually explain.
The strap option is super cool to shave even more weight off especially on the A-body doors.

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here is the beginning of my lightweight build, i will update as i go.
gotta love titanium. will be machining nuts soon as those moly 12pt ones are actually about 5 grams heavier than stock castle nuts


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