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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353386
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Thank you.
Your car looks great as well and with its shark nose, it cuts wind better than the older models with the recessed mugs.

I have a few interesting old school flicks of home made work done on the 65'car in the course of five years, But I need to have them scanned and made into digital files in order to post on here for the first time. Keep an eye out.
It should start a revolution or maybe a relapse to some recovering lean addicts here. Believe it or not, the F.A.S.T gang are some of the most inventive guys I've met so far this side of legal racing.

ThumperD, as you know, this type of thread has been put up before and read up in many a magazines over the years, but it is the way you worded the title that makes people either invent, suspend or confess. This thread is great because its a cheap way or expensive way to cut ET depending on what side of sanity that one may be on and their pockets. It's not Rocket Science, it's what I call Pocket Science.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353387
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The FAST crowd are very "inventive" My neighbor runs Pure Stock. I learned from him as well. Saw a Fairlane in Las Vegas with flat shaped aluminum wheels,vacuum formed plastic wheel centers that looked like a factory steel wheel.
Doug

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353388
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I'll soon show you'll pictures of my wheels that were a brainchild between a friend (Special K) and I.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353389
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I always thought centerline originals with 4 bolt on knob/studs painted body color with the appropriate dog dish would be cool. While not completely invisible, stealthly none the less.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353390
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I like the hood hinges. Any idea on how weight you saved going with the aluminum floor,trunk and firewall? What are you running for bumpers and brackets? Is the windshield Lexan,if so how thick?
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Front bumper fiberglass aluminum brackets
rear stock b&b
I looked in the service manual I could not find the shiping weight it sits at 2840 now but it also has a full cage with front bars and down bars I would get a glass hood as the one on it is 57# after I guted it The car has all lexan windows 1/8 thick the front has a brace in the center. At one point I had added a second battery hopeing for some better 60"s but lost ET, Took out second battery ET wend back down to wher it was.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Streetwize] #1353391
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Big,

It was a very nose heavy b motor A body/727...no sway bar, worn shocks, the weight on the back helped the 60'...ran this car in street trim with McCreary Dirt Track tires...20+ years ago.

I've added rear ballast (and net weight) to several cars and ET'd quicker...what's to get??




"What's to get" is if it's not spinning the tires how can it go quicker by adding weight???? I've personally never experienced that... that sounds like a bandaid for needing to work on the front suspension....


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Big Squeeze] #1353392
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I'm with ya, Big!

Just a street driven 'work' car that ran pretty darn good, no way to get a full plant with those tires but it hooked really consistently, even on the street. Getting a mega torque big block a body to hook takes some work, I set the motor back with elephant ears to where the pass side VC would barely clear the firewall.

I do think in general the more nose heavy the car, the more rear weight at the very rear helps get the suspension to react in that initial moment.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Streetwize] #1353393
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I'm with ya, Big!

Just a street driven 'work' car that ran pretty darn good, no way to get a full plant with those tires but it hooked really consistently, even on the street. Getting a mega torque big block a body to hook takes some work, I set the motor back with elephant ears to where the pass side VC would barely clear the firewall.

I do think in general the more nose heat the car, the more rear weight at the very rear helps get the suspension to react in that initial moment.




Mine went quicker after bolting a cast iron cylinder head to the tail end of the frame. Now the goal is to remove enough weight off the nose to not need the additional weight on the tail.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Streetwize] #1353394
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I'm with ya, Big!

Just a street driven 'work' car that ran pretty darn good, no way to get a full plant with those tires but it hooked really consistently, even on the street. Getting a mega torque big block a body to hook takes some work, I set the motor back with elephant ears to where the pass side VC would barely clear the firewall.

I do think in general the more nose heavy the car, the more rear weight at the very rear helps get the suspension to react in that initial moment.




Cool...


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dannysbee] #1353395
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So now that wheels have made their way into this conversation, lets see what is brewing.
Let me disclaim any thoughts that I may be boasting, but I figured that this can help some of us sneak up on those pesky bottle fed X-cars and Blue ovals.
What was relatively an old school two piece rivet/welded Centerline Auto-drag wheel became the closest candidate for a lightweight aluminum steel wheel look-alike. Again just like three Card Monte, what you think you see is not really what it is.
What's behind door #1?

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353396
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From conversations I covertly had with a good friend by the name that I call him by (Special K) he suggested I scratch spin an aluminum hubcap that sealed itself to the inner edges of the rim where the rivets are mounted. Once this hat was in my hands, I measured and remeasured and cut the wheel stud holes and axle center hole once it was placed on the wheel.
What's behind door #2

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353397
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Once all holes are carefully cut and sized, the precision balanced hub itself can be mounted at the same time the wheel is mounted onto the car thus sealing and hiding the tattle tail rivets. A little juggling is needed to pass the hubcap under and behind the air valve stem. This has to be with kid gloves because you do not want to damage the stem and or scratch the paint, thus revealing the alloy underneath.
What you present to the naked eye is the following painted STOCK STEEL wheel. Even many a Mopar guy have seen these and asked why I do not invest in a set of light weight wheels for quicker ET.
Well................
What's behind door #3

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353398
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Duner] #1353399
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Lightning seems to always follow me and strike nearby where ever I go these days. LOL.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353400
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We used to play the "stock look" game while fishing for races at "the hill" on our 3-wheelers at the dunes. We went to very great lengths to disguise everything on the bikes. Of course, it didn't take long before people began to catch on. We had great fun until they did.

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deny, deny, deny to defy the curious eye. LOL.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353402
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Once all holes are carefully cut and sized, the precision balanced hub itself can be mounted at the same time the wheel is mounted onto the car thus sealing and hiding the tattle tail rivets. A little juggling is needed to pass the hubcap under and behind the air valve stem. This has to be with kid gloves because you do not want to damage the stem and or scratch the paint, thus revealing the alloy underneath.
What you present to the naked eye is the following painted STOCK STEEL wheel. Even many a Mopar guy have seen these and asked why I do not invest in a set of light weight wheels for quicker ET.
Well................
What's behind door #3




If I need to go to a 12" wheel, now I've found my answer. Since they don't make 200 S in a 12".
Doug

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What's a 200-s 12" wheel?

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353405
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Yeah, the Centerline's mounting hub is the perfect flat surface to seat a cover, but it has to be seated to the wheel with large aluminum washers under the lugs to spread the load and not distort the cover as the lugs press down during tightening. My cover is only 1/16th thick.

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