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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353306
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Had it spun like 8 years back. I than made the copy over of the trimming, notching, tapped holes and all using a stock steel column. Saved about 3-1/2 lbs.
Material and spinning cost me 100.00 but I don't think he is in the same place anymore and the cost have probably gone up since.



The main weight in the column is the shaft and stock wheel. I made the shaft from .090"x3/4" moly. I had to keep the stock wheel. I'm stuck on this "stock look".
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Yes and No on the column assembly weight conviction.
I also had the steering shaft remade from Chrome-moly tubing with a swinging joint by Bondo-Bobs fabrication and that in itself saved 3-1/4 lbs. Factor in the stock looking steering wheel, lightweight fasteners, washers and the Alloy column and you have 10 lbs scavenged off the front. A little fiendish, but fun in the process.
The steering column/brake pedal mounting bracket underneath the dash is also of the Allu-alloy along with all cross bar supports and fasteners. Super trick and another 4 lbs shaved off for a grand total of 14 lbs.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353308
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Next time anyone is under their dashes and happen to have the pot metal instrument cluster removed, take a minute to see how much that puppy weighs. Mine weighed 3 pounds Stock.
I shaved off 1 lb all together by hole saw drilling the real-estate of the back side which is thick walled and was not serving anything and there after taped over the newly cut cavities with good 3M Gaffers White tape to help restore reflection for the inner lights.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353309
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DVW. You have craft in your blood. Keep up the great work. Keep that B-body lightweight.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353310
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Guys some really great ideas and thoughts. Really nice craftmanship too!!! Thanks for the link to the bolts and the aluminum bolt idea. I am going to keep that in mind for the build I am starting now.

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Though Pontiac gets the nod for being the first at bluntly creating lightweight panels for their Drag cars, it was Mopar that is remembered for instigating the craze one notch further with their out the box lightweight uni-body cars. Hence the Maxie's and Hemi 2% cars of 1964.
With that in mind, all people assume that the Mopar camps are always reinventing stuff on the sly, and they're right. The word Skunkworks probably started with the Ramchargers in Detroit.
I personally like a recipe that includes those covert Detroit practices along with original Stock car and Formula 1 schemes.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353312
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DVW. You have craft in your blood. Keep up the great work. Keep that B-body lightweight.



That's the fun in building it. And yes the cast cluster is gone. You can't see all the holes in the brake pedal.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353313
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Great line up of all the usual suspects as far as engine vital signs.
I still have the idiot light set up in mine.LOL.
The rear view mirror is another 1/2 lb when leaned out a little with the Dremel die grinder.

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Lexan wind vents and functioning side windows. Shaved 25 lbs total.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353315
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Not exactly a Mopar, but respectably FAST,COOL and LIGHTWEIGHT.
Many tricks on this car by its 66 year old owner. 3400 lbs and change wet.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353316
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I'm going through my Australian Charger at the moment. Not sure if your got something similiar but where your door hinges bolt onto the body there's a removable metal plate in behind which is about 1/4 inch thick steel. I replaced these with an alloy plate, same thickness, tapped the holes to suit. Would have to be 3-4 pounds in them


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: charger410] #1353317
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Yes I have, and the Door strikers themselves are being cnc jet cut out of 7075 as we speak in Detroit. These strikers and their backing plates do not weigh much though. 3 lbs all together in stock form, so Alu's would only cut off 1 to 1-1/2 pounds at the most.
Where the holy grail is are the door hinges themselves. Mine were sold to me before they even made it to market and now they're asking like $700.00 a pair. They save as much as 8 lbs between two doors.

All of these confessions that have pawed out about the car was only because the CIA made me do it? Freedom of information act I guess. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353318
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As to a previous reply on here, newer cars like Avengers and Stratus's and such look like they should be light by the usage of space age carbons and for the most part, do! but older cars especially big bad B-bodies and some A bodies are only begging to be lightened using some of the sneakiest tricks out there while keeping the look of a porky stocker.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353319
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Yes I have, and the Door strikers themselves are being cnc jet cut out of 7075 as we speak in Detroit. These strikers and their backing plates do not weigh much though. 3 lbs all together in stock form, so Alu's would only cut off 1 to 1-1/2 pounds at the most.
Where the holy grail is are the door hinges themselves. Mine were sold to me before they even made it to market and now they're asking like $700.00 a pair. They save as much as 8 lbs between two doors.

All of these confessions that have pawed out about the car was only because the CIA made me do it? Freedom of information act I guess. LOL.


Now I know I found someone than me............ It was great talking to ya Lee and you inspired my looney side and make me realize I`m not alone. I just removed the windshield and am gettin ready to remove the dash..........Fun, fun, fun............

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yeah, it was cool chattin' about these nutty professor schemes.
From what I see, look into those (4) hoodpins and hardware. I've made mine out of Aluminum like 8 years back and now found a pair for sale at a upstate Sprint car shop. They have to be of 6061 or 7075. some pressure there from the head draft. A little hard to thread but doable. shaved 1-1/2 pounds.

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After: Saved 22 pounds and now my pedal ratio is 6:1, just need a column drop to button it up.



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After: Saved 22 pounds and now my pedal ratio is 6:1, just need a column drop to button it up.




Nice, I`ll be there soon........


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353323
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Over here no one has molds for my car's panels so i had them made.
Got the panels made in carbon fiber and this is how much weight they save

2 x doors 50.8
2 x guards 42
hood 35
trunk 17
2 x bumpers 48

total 192 pounds weight saved
Had them done to look as much as possible like the original steel ones
There not on yet but thats my job for this year



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Are you running lite weight headlights?

Some of the Hotrod supply shops sell very lite weight plastic headlights

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Good weight loss program there with carbon fiber.
I've been hell bent on making it possible with Factory lightweight panels or scratch built components with exotic metals, Hence the name: FULLMETALJACKET.
The plastic bulbs if I'm correct have to be run with resistors and more wiring and that would off shoot the weight of the glass bulbs which by the way, weigh 3/4 pound each. Probably not worth it.

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