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Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: dvw] #1352728 12/29/12 11:06 AM 12/29/12 11:06 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	the bottom 7523013-209.jpg (327 downloads)

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: dvw] #1352729 12/29/12 11:20 AM 12/29/12 11:20 AM
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Moparpoor member M Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 126 Howell,MI	I like the setup dvw !!!

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: bigtimeauto] #1352730 12/29/12 11:51 AM 12/29/12 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,997 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,997 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: take the eaxhaust off, PUT the crossmember where it needs to be, then fix the exhaust. A custom bent piece of tubing made for the front mount to clear where you want to put both the exhaust and the ladderbar mounting cross bar is may be a good idea here. You will not have to compromise as much. With the front bar mounted below the frame connecters the ride height will be way to high. In order to get it right, you may have to move the exhaust in closer to the driveshaft? The roundy round crowd uses rectangular exhaust tube in some locatoions for ground clearance, and you might be able to do the same here to clear the cross bar and gain some working room. This is not the time to compromise. It will affect too many things if not done right. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: gregsdart] #1352731 12/29/12 01:33 PM 12/29/12 01:33 PM
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1974 474 Duster super stock 1 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 755 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh...	Here's mine, all Alston parts. Has went 1.30 60' so far. works quite well on any track. See ya, Ken 7523195-Danaincar.JPG (335 downloads)

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: dvw] #1352732 12/29/12 04:36 PM 12/29/12 04:36 PM
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Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Very nicely done dvw !!! I will post pics of the modification of the front cross member tonight Dan Yes Mr.P I kept a 30-40 angle, thanks for the tip !

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352733 12/30/12 02:49 PM 12/30/12 02:49 PM
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Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I had to do some fabrication to keep the exhausts at the same place, lots of welding. But fits perfect ! Final assembly before paint is coming soon..... Mr. P !! does the angle look ok ? 7524847-IMG106.jpg (455 downloads)

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352734 12/30/12 02:52 PM 12/30/12 02:52 PM
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Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352735 12/30/12 03:07 PM 12/30/12 03:07 PM
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fed mopar Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 462 Stockholm, Sweden	How are you supossed to change the front of the ladderbar? Looks a little bit of to me! Cuda, -70 Valiant-65 AWB, Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar. Topolino Fuel Altered. NostalgiaFED Sold, SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352736 12/30/12 03:07 PM 12/30/12 03:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Pic of the angle Is this all wrong ? should the holes be vertical so you can adjust the front of the bars up and down ? the way he got it. you not adjusting anything on that ?

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: VernMotor] #1352737 12/30/12 04:01 PM 12/30/12 04:01 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Pic of the angle Is this all wrong ? should the holes be vertical so you can adjust the front of the bars up and down ? the way he got it. you not adjusting anything on that ? totaly wrong. Hopefully it just fell down from not being clamped. The holes need to be vertical BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: VernMotor] #1352738 12/30/12 04:01 PM 12/30/12 04:01 PM
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Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Ok I just saw my mistake...!!! got them wrong in the welding process.... First question: what is the effect of moving the bars up or down ?

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: VernMotor] #1352739 12/30/12 04:21 PM 12/30/12 04:21 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Pic of the angle Is this all wrong ? should the holes be vertical so you can adjust the front of the bars up and down ? the way he got it. you not adjusting anything on that ? Like said here... you have it all wrong.. the front mounting holes need to be VERTICAL .... thats not what I meant by 30-40 degrees APPLIED angle

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: dvw] #1352740 12/30/12 05:23 PM 12/30/12 05:23 PM
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Hemi SS member H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 40 Harrison Township, Michigan	Quote: the bottom Very nice dvw! Whose parts did you use?

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352741 12/30/12 06:54 PM 12/30/12 06:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Ok I just saw my mistake...!!! got them wrong in the welding process.... First question: what is the effect of moving the bars up or down ? Well with going in to a long response //that is how you in part adjust them.

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Hemi SS] #1352742 12/30/12 06:55 PM 12/30/12 06:55 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: the bottom Very nice dvw! Whose parts did you use? Parts are S&W, 36" bars. As to the bracket pic above that might actually work. Think about it. Cars that like the instant center further down probably like it further forward as well. As you adjusted down it would come forward as well. There would have to be enough tire clearance at the front of the well as long as enough for the driveshaft. Would it work? I'm already trying enough off the wall stuff myself , but never say never. Here's the back of mine. Doug 7525182-211.jpg (155 downloads)

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: dvw] #1352743 12/30/12 07:57 PM 12/30/12 07:57 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	the higher the bar angle the harder hit for a shorter time, lower angle less hit but longer time. Is the short version. If you have stock front suspension (at least 6" of travel)Set your ladder bar around 2* down AT RIDE Height and you will be fine. Thats the short version, i can't type enough for all of it. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1352744 12/30/12 09:23 PM 12/30/12 09:23 PM
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Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Pic of the angle Is this all wrong ? should the holes be vertical so you can adjust the front of the bars up and down ? the way he got it. you not adjusting anything on that ? Like said here... you have it all wrong.. the front mounting holes need to be VERTICAL .... thats not what I meant by 30-40 degrees APPLIED angle Please explain, because I'm getting more and more confused here.......

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: Wedgeman] #1352745 12/30/12 09:26 PM 12/30/12 09:26 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Please explain, because I'm getting more and more confused here....... Just do this: BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: bigtimeauto] #1352746 12/30/12 09:30 PM 12/30/12 09:30 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	here is a drawing: BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Ladder bars on A body [Re: bigtimeauto] #1352747 12/30/12 11:02 PM 12/30/12 11:02 PM
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Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Ok.....I see the up and down adjustments... But here is what I did Rear axle is at 16 in from ground front x memeber at 12in from ground bar is parallel to the body ( level) end of ladder bar 1 1/2in lower than x member Is this part right so far ?

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