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NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... #1350557 12/12/12 07:58 PM 12/12/12 07:58 PM
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dustergirl340 OP Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	http://www.lsxtv.com/news/nhra-amends-roll-barcage-rules-for-08-later-street-vehicles/

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: dustergirl340] #1350558 12/12/12 08:03 PM 12/12/12 08:03 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Big mistake. it will get changed back after something bad happens unfortunatly. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: dustergirl340] #1350559 12/12/12 08:05 PM 12/12/12 08:05 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	anyone here care to barrel roll a 2008 or newer 10 second hard top across the guard rail at 135 mph? what a joke, now nhra who makes us throw out belts that there's nothing wrong with is willing to throw safety into the wind for financial concerns

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: jamesc] #1350560 12/12/12 08:08 PM 12/12/12 08:08 PM
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Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	I'm using my outdated SFI belts to hold my trans blanket on.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: dustergirl340] #1350561 12/12/12 08:32 PM 12/12/12 08:32 PM
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bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Sounds reasonable to me! A lot of modern cars can run faster than 11.5 in factory trim now-a-days. Plus there are hardly any accidents at a drag strip. It�s a straight line!!!! Most of the bad situations happen from ratty cars and huge wheel stands. Or pro-mod type cars that have way more power than the builders have the know how to put a proper chassis under them! And the seat belt rule is just a money grab. Has nothing to do with safety. This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: jamesc] #1350562 12/12/12 08:58 PM 12/12/12 08:58 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: anyone here care to barrel roll a 2008 or newer 10 second hard top across the guard rail at 135 mph? what a joke, now nhra who makes us throw out belts that there's nothing wrong with is willing to throw safety into the wind for financial concerns Being that they say they're safe( a factory car) and to be honest they are pretty damn safe due to crash standards(50 mph now) and also have roll over and crush standards...but now I will ask ... can they still run the factory seat belts at 10.0... I'm not sure if they make you change them

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1350563 12/12/12 10:20 PM 12/12/12 10:20 PM
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BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	Keyword there is "unaltered". As soon as somebody adds N2O, a blower, or any other performance enhancing modification I figure all bets are off and it's rollbar time. Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: BBR] #1350564 12/12/12 10:32 PM 12/12/12 10:32 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Keyword there is "unaltered". As soon as somebody adds N2O, a blower, or any other performance enhancing modification I figure all bets are off and it's rollbar time. I'm thinking they mean a unaltered body/chassis... and do what you want on the factory engine but you cant go quicker than 10.0... its the body and chassis that makes the newer cars safer... the 301 standard has gone up over the years... now its 50 mph frontal impact

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: bwdst6] #1350565 12/12/12 10:54 PM 12/12/12 10:54 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Plus there are hardly any accidents at a drag strip. It�s a straight line!!!! Most of the bad situations happen from ratty cars and huge wheel stands. Or pro-mod type cars that have way more power than the builders have the know how to put a proper chassis under them! You might want to youtube some corvette and mustang track rentals before sticking with that statement BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: bigtimeauto] #1350566 12/12/12 11:06 PM 12/12/12 11:06 PM
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bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: Quote: Plus there are hardly any accidents at a drag strip. It�s a straight line!!!! Most of the bad situations happen from ratty cars and huge wheel stands. Or pro-mod type cars that have way more power than the builders have the know how to put a proper chassis under them! You might want to youtube some corvette and mustang track rentals before sticking with that statement I've been going to drag strips for nearly 30 years. A couple anecdotal examples on YouTube isn't going to change my mind. I've seen far worse stuff on public roads! This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1350567 12/12/12 11:43 PM 12/12/12 11:43 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Being that they say they're safe( a factory car) and to be honest they are pretty damn safe due to crash standards(50 mph now) and also have roll over and crush standards...but now I will ask ... can they still run the factory seat belts at 10.0... I'm not sure if they make you change them This was my first thought. The factory seat belts are not going to be a bunch of help if bad things happen much past 1/4 track. I have to disagree with the notion that these cars are not prone to crashing too......though it is nearly always the driver who makes it happen , but they brody with regularity. At least as frequently as " rat cars ' and probably for the same reasons. Sure , it doesn't happen every week......but it do happen.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: tubtar] #1350568 12/12/12 11:54 PM 12/12/12 11:54 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Being that they say they're safe( a factory car) and to be honest they are pretty damn safe due to crash standards(50 mph now) and also have roll over and crush standards...but now I will ask ... can they still run the factory seat belts at 10.0... I'm not sure if they make you change them This was my first thought. The factory seat belts are not going to be a bunch of help if bad things happen much past 1/4 track. I have to disagree with the notion that these cars are not prone to crashing too......though it is nearly always the driver who makes it happen , but they brody with regularity. At least as frequently as " rat cars ' and probably for the same reasons. Sure , it doesn't happen every week......but it do happen. I disagree with you on the stock belts... we did/do ALOT of testing on them and between the air bags and the belt... your staying in the seat... the only thing that might happen(and we tested this also) was to slide downward and get under the belt and then you get wadded up under the dash... the only time we would see this was on a VERY SMALL driver(only the little women test dummy) EDIT and that was a lose lap belt Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 12/12/12 11:57 PM.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: tubtar] #1350569 12/12/12 11:55 PM 12/12/12 11:55 PM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Any one have a airbag in there race car? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1350570 12/13/12 12:45 AM 12/13/12 12:45 AM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Any one have a airbag in there race car? i had one in the pass side of my s-10 BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: bigtimeauto] #1350571 12/13/12 12:57 AM 12/13/12 12:57 AM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	How about front and sides? Just sayin Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1350572 12/13/12 01:00 AM 12/13/12 01:00 AM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	I agree with the concept of a single car racing, crashing and being safe. The problem is when they line up next to somebody else thats has different rules.. I never run my car against a car that is not prepared like mine for the saftey of both of us. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1350573 12/13/12 01:57 AM 12/13/12 01:57 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Any one have a airbag in there race car? What you dont like the air bags in the cars that are involved in the rule change... do I have air bags in my race car... no but I also dont fall into the the 08 or newer category

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: bigtimeauto] #1350574 12/13/12 01:59 AM 12/13/12 01:59 AM
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ksj master K Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,589 Topeka Kansas	85 mph and hit an 8 point buck with a 2012 Challenger and totalled it.All damage was in the right front.Right front fender crumpled like it should and the pass. side door had no damage.Set off 4 of 6 air bags.There was a sensor at the front that automatically retracted my seat belt.It WORKED.The air bag in the steering wheel did not come close to hitting me in the face.I asked the body guy why are there air bags in the dash. His response was."For people that dont wear seat belts" Safety has come a LONG way.10 second car I dont know.NHRA is always about fleecing the customer.Maybe they did their homework?

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: bigtimeauto] #1350575 12/13/12 02:35 AM 12/13/12 02:35 AM
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SpareParts pro stock Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,563 Janesville, WI	LOL, we run through mid to low 8 second "street cars" maybe some high 7's without cages at local grudge events.

Re: NHRA Amends Roll Bar/Cage Rules for '08-later cars..... [Re: SpareParts] #1350576 12/13/12 02:53 AM 12/13/12 02:53 AM
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BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	After doing some reading, this looks to be a series specific exemption and not a free pass for all 2008+ cars at all events/series. Additionally, the track tech is going to have the last say in what is allowed to run or not. Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

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