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Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348756 12/10/12 12:57 AM 12/10/12 12:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: Quote: Quote: Smallblocks are cool.....BUT If you want to go fast on pump gas you already put limitations on yourself.... Go with the biggest engine you can so that leaves BIG BLOCK. I cant see how a 540 or bigger with 440-1 or edelbrocks cant go mid 9's Two things to go fast easily.... 1 lightweight 2 BIG inches...No replacement for displacement Not sure if you will say but what does your car run off of NOS??? current engine in the car now, went 9.69 with 28* timing at 3550lbs Im sure with moire timing and a little looser converter and more gear, it would be mid nine sec car. BUT it does not run on pump gas. STILL impressive!!!!!!!

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348757 12/10/12 01:01 AM 12/10/12 01:01 AM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,688 On the parachute mount	dont forget, the guy on here (but not on the board anymore) Ron Silva? with the silver valiant. Ryan J built him a 500" small block. htere are some vids on youtube maybe of that car, Im pretty sure 9.60's BUT like i say 500" smallblock is pretty exotic stuff $$$ 540 shortdeck (stockblock 400) with decent 440-1's is pretty run of the mill, Whatever you go with like i said...LIGHTER is always BETTER. I got my car down from 3500 to 3300 and i can tell you it runs so much better!!! Last edited by n20mstr; 12/10/12 01:02 AM. ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348758 12/10/12 01:11 AM 12/10/12 01:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	I do know Ron and I also remember his blue demon with a 474 SB that ran 9.90's. lol My duster weighs 2940 without me with a SB.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348759 12/10/12 01:16 AM 12/10/12 01:16 AM
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Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	A body cars with bb moters what are your combos running 9.50 or more and what weigth im 9.85 at 3400 pound car 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348760 12/10/12 01:19 AM 12/10/12 01:19 AM
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one bad fish pro stock O Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,534 bronx n.y	All I know is my car is allmost 3200 with me in it and I don't need no big block and my stuff ain't exotic at all.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: one bad fish] #1348761 12/10/12 01:24 AM 12/10/12 01:24 AM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,688 On the parachute mount	Quote: All I know is my car is allmost 3200 with me in it and I don't need no big block and my stuff ain't exotic at all. Well you left out the most important part.... does it run MID NINES on pump gas??? Mike is asking what would be easier? to go mid nine with on pump gas.. If his car is 2940 with a smallblock hes already there, just needs some BIG cubes or good parts to go that fast on pump gas. ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348762 12/10/12 01:27 AM 12/10/12 01:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,534 bronx n.y O one bad fish pro stock
one bad fish pro stock O Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,534 bronx n.y	With out a thought the bigger the easer it is And no am not on pump gas.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348763 12/10/12 01:29 AM 12/10/12 01:29 AM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,688 On the parachute mount	Quote: I do know Ron and I also remember his blue demon with a 474 SB that ran 9.90's. lol My duster weighs 2940 without me with a SB. i re read yout first post,,,,,,I see you want to stay smallblock, I guess i should go back, delete all my big block advice....LOL OK for a small block to go that fast on pumpgas, id say you need some good heads, some decent big cubes and......Follow that 500" build in Ron Silvas Valiant. THat was a bad a$$ pumpgas motor that ran for sure ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348764 12/10/12 01:29 AM 12/10/12 01:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	if you want to drive it anywhere then gear/tire size and converter needs to be part of your quest for mid 9s because there is no way I would have been able to deal with my car with anything more than a 3.55 gear during drag week Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348765 12/10/12 01:29 AM 12/10/12 01:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	The problem with my SB now is that it has 12:1 comp and I dont think I can run pump gas...I may be able too but not sure if it will be good for it. I was trying to buy my dads old duster back because it was already to go...It runs mid 9's but not sure if on pump gas though.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348766 12/10/12 01:33 AM 12/10/12 01:33 AM
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one bad fish pro stock O Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,534 bronx n.y	Yes it would take some good stuff to do it

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348767 12/10/12 01:37 AM 12/10/12 01:37 AM
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mopar65 master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,838 Central Missouri Fort Leonard...	Quote: dont forget, the guy on here (but not on the board anymore) Ron Silva? with the silver valiant. Ryan J built him a 500" small block. htere are some vids on youtube maybe of that car, Im pretty sure 9.60's BUT like i say 500" smallblock is pretty exotic stuff $$$ 540 shortdeck (stockblock 400) with decent 440-1's is pretty run of the mill, Whatever you go with like i said...LIGHTER is always BETTER. I got my car down from 3500 to 3300 and i can tell you it runs so much better!!! what all did you do to drop the weight? I ask this because my all steel big block 73 dodge dart weighs 3520 with me in it and i have not installed a roll bar/cage yet.best pass with me in it has been a 10.62 at 124.56 in the 1/4 and my buddy that weighs around 110 pounds less than me ran the new best in my sig. Oh sorry for high jacking the post Mike. Mopar65 3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348768 12/10/12 01:38 AM 12/10/12 01:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: i re read yout first post,,,,,,I see you want to stay smallblock, I guess i should go back, delete all my big block advice....LOL OK for a small block to go that fast on pumpgas, id say you need some good heads, some decent big cubes and......Follow that 500" build in Ron Silvas Valiant. THat was a bad a$$ pumpgas motor that ran for sure I didnt say I wanted to stay SB,just curious if it could be done with a SB.....Also,what would be easier to do it with,SB or BB?? I will NOT delete any of your posts,I may need them down the road!!!!!

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348769 12/10/12 01:50 AM 12/10/12 01:50 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Its way easier to make the car lighter... you get the ET and easier on parts

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348770 12/10/12 01:51 AM 12/10/12 01:51 AM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,688 On the parachute mount	Quote: Quote: i re read yout first post,,,,,,I see you want to stay smallblock, I guess i should go back, delete all my big block advice....LOL OK for a small block to go that fast on pumpgas, id say you need some good heads, some decent big cubes and......Follow that 500" build in Ron Silvas Valiant. THat was a bad a$$ pumpgas motor that ran for sure I didnt say I wanted to stay SB,just curious if it could be done with a SB.....Also,what would be easier to do it with,SB or BB?? I will NOT delete any of your posts,I may need them down the road!!!!! Just my opinion, and i dont want ot get into that SB - BB debate... BUT there is no replacement for displacement...bigger is always better Especially if you limiting yourself to pump gas. I know right now someone selling a 540. KB block. B1 originals Two foggers, that is built for pump gas. Went 9.0's on motor...he wants 15k for it Now thats a GREAT deal, buy that and sell the intake or the kits and put that in your car ! Last edited by n20mstr; 12/10/12 01:52 AM. ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348771 12/10/12 01:54 AM 12/10/12 01:54 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Running water and meth injection should help you run pump gas.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348772 12/10/12 01:58 AM 12/10/12 01:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: Just my opinion, and i dont want ot get into that SB - BB debate... BUT there is no replacement for displacement...bigger is always better Especially if you limiting yourself to pump gas. I know right now someone selling a 540. KB block. B1 originals Two foggers, that is built for pump gas. Went 9.0's on motor...he wants 15k for it Now thats a GREAT deal, buy that and sell the intake or the kits and put that in your car ! Would you like to donate 15k to the MikesDuster motor fund???? LOL That IS a great deal!!!!

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1348773 12/10/12 03:05 AM 12/10/12 03:05 AM
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b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	Find yourself a siamese R3 block,Mancini is selling them for under $2600. On another post about race blocks somebody found them going for under $2400. A Rod Bloomer 4.25 crank kit. A set of Indy 360-2 230 cc or 360-1 245 cc heads,Indy intake. A 4.200 bore or larger will put it over 470 CI. With a flat top piston and 65cc chamber you will be at 11.00 to 11.5 CR. With the right cam and .040 or lower quench will run on pump and go mid 9s at your weight with ease. You could probably go cheaper if you can locate a 59* siamese block and use the new Airwolf heads. Remember you will also save the expense of a new tranny if you stay smallblock. I would think you could build an engine like this for $15k or less if you shop around for the right deals and assemble it yourself.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: sixpackgut] #1348774 12/10/12 03:19 AM 12/10/12 03:19 AM
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ksj master K Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,589 Topeka Kansas	Quote: if you want to drive it anywhere then gear/tire size and converter needs to be part of your quest for mid 9s because there is no way I would have been able to deal with my car with anything more than a 3.55 gear during drag week Ray.splurge for a GV and get rid of the 3.55s. That and a cage update.

Re: MID 9 SECOND "STREET CAR" N/A.....SB VS. BB???? [Re: n20mstr] #1348775 12/10/12 04:56 AM 12/10/12 04:56 AM
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moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	my N/A BB runs decent for being raced on local 93 (3400lbs) Mopar Performance

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