I have a 69 RR hardtop. I know the hardtops automatically got the "decor" group option with rear armrests with ashtrays and so forth. At least I think I know that.

I am using the Charger, Roadrunner and Superbee Restoration guide, which I am rapidly losing faith in because I find it confusing at times, and this interior question is one of those times.

My car came with silver door panels and rear seat. There was no black in the rear seat. Someone before me had covered the front bench in solid black, which I believe is incorrect. I see no silver interior option in my guide, and I think I have deduced that the seats were some combination of silver and black, and that the steel in the door above the door panels is silver as well, and the dash/dash pads are black.

I also think I figured out that the door panels were supposed to be black and silver too, but mine weren't, and it had the original door panels in it I believe.

So, can anyone help me out? I don't know what door panels or seat covers to buy, or what is supposed to be right. I am changing the color from turquoise to black, but I would like to keep the car as original as possible.

I sure do appreciate any help anyone can offer me. I am at a loss.

Clay

Let's start with more questions.

What is the interior code on your fender tag?

What is the upper door panel paint code on your fender tag?

1. If that's the Paul Herd book, throw it away.
2. Go the the Hamtramck Historical site, and look up the '69 Belvedere/etc trim guide. Look for the interior option code that matches the one on your fender tag.
3. If your door panels are original, and have horizontal "pleats" in them, that's the Decor (Satellite) interior, which is the RR HT trim level. Decor seats will have horizontal pleats in their inserts instead of the coarser grain, which in '69 would have vertical pleats in their center.
4. Pewter was an available interior color in '69 but not for the Belvedere/base RR cars. Silver & black seats were '68-only coupe-only base interior, and had all-silver door panels. Black seat inserts were Reed grain (like basketweave).
5. Pewter interiors are rare, and Q5 is rare; but together, it's a pretty weird combination.

Charger, Roadrunner and Superbee Restoration Guide

So, you are looking for pictures of '69 Road Runners with correct H2S bench seat interiors - correct?

In '68 there were variations of the silver & black interior, I'm not sure if that's the case in '69? Adding the build plant & scheduled production date may help to get a solid/correct answer.





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courtesy of the '69 PLYMOUTH trim book at Hamtramck-Historical

You guys are GREAT! I appreciate all the help!

I'd been relying on this Paul Herd Charger, Road Runner and Superbee Restoration Guide pretty heavily. I restored a 66 GTO and my dad did a 67 GTO using the Paul Zazarine GTO Restoration Guide, and it was invaluable. I guess they aren't all made the same.

I knew to use the data plate. I didn't mean to make myself sound THAT ignorant, but the car, and consequently the fender, are in the body shop and I don't have access to it. I do know it is a Q5 car. I don't remember the interior trim code but the interior when I got it had silver door panels, silver rear seat, and silver arm rests. I would assume the front seat was silver as well. So I assume it was a Q5 car with pewter interior.

Can I ask this? Is there an option for an all black interior 69, meaning solid black bench, door panels, and arm rests? If there is, I may go that way, or go back with the original all pewter.

Thanks again!

This is the only pic I could find - RM21 in "Omaha orange" - I know I've seen multiple pics of the H2S interior in one of the A12 cars, but can't find pics.
No seat medallions, so I'll "assume" Legendary seat covers - all H2S fender tags show A4 UDF.

I have tag info on 8 RRs w/H2S interior - A4, B3, R4, 2at R6, Q5, 2at 99
The Q5 car is 9A297xxx sound like yours?

Thanks Dan, for your help.

My VIN is RM23H9C285763

Is Q5 with pewter interior unusual? I may rethink painting it black.

When I restored my GTO I went back all original because I'd bought it from the original owner. It's reef turquoise with white interior and a white vinyl top and white sidewalls. I have hated that color ever since, and decided I wanted to do this Road Runner the way I wanted it - black on black, with the hood stripes, or maybe B5. My thinking was that it can always be repainted and seats can be recovered, but if it's unusual maybe I will rethink it.

The pewter interior makes the difference between any typical Road Runner with a black bench seat interior (I love Road Runners no matter what interior) and a much more unique car with a special color combination! Go for the colored interior. It will "pop"! Otherwise, it deserves to be restored the way it was born.

Q5 with Pewter interior...
Please post photos.

Q5 and pewter is the only way to do it.

You guys are killing me! I'm pretty torn.

You see, I am a history professor/soldier, so I absolutely understand the sentiment to restore it the way it was, especially now that you guys have helped me to understand how unusual this car is. All of these cars are like archeological relics, and that sure appeals to my historian side.

On the other hand, I did this once before with that damn green GTO and the English language does not have the capacity to allow me to express how much I hate that original color. But, it is all original, as this one is. Completely numbers matching Q5 with pewter interior.

You guys are about to talk me into this. Can I at least put the stripes on the hood?

Dan, do you want to put this one in your database?

Thanks again for all your help. This has been one of the coolest evenings I have spent. I love this message board.

I agree with the rest of the Moparts mob keep that one original!

*BTW, a COMPLETE color change on a Mopar is difficult, expensive, will almost always reduces value, and is just as much or more costly to reverse.

If you go with the stripes, you won't be satisfied. It will always gnaw at your gut as to whether you should have done it or not...plus, it's hard to make them look as good as factory. The painted hood will look great.

I think the folks here covered your interior question. But I have one thing to suggest. As soon as possible go to the shop and get your fender tag. I can't tell you how many folks on this board lost them at body shops.

Good calls guys, and I hate to tell you the truth about that tag...

I went over to the shop the other night for a conjugal visit with my car. I had to have the inner fender replaced because it was shot, and I was admiring the work. I never even thought about the tag, until my dad noticed the holes for it and asked where it was. Major fail on my part. Long story short, it was out behind the shop, still attached to the fender, in the scrap heap with the remains of my rusted floor pans.

At any rate, I am going to go get it this evening.

So, store it with the title rather than putting it back on the car when it's done?

The tag should always remain with the car! Add a little JB Weld to the bottoms of the screws once placed before/during/after paint. There are just as many "stories" about tags being lost by their rightful owners, because they put them in a "safe" place. Titles can be replaced, "ORIGINAL" tags - not so simple an issue.

Call the bodyshop RIGHT NOW. Tell them that you are coming to get the tag and to bring the inner fender inside immediately. I hope it's still there. With the luck I seem to have, the scrap pile would be hauled away right before I got there.

Already got it. Thanks for the urgency and genuine concern you all showed for me and my car.

Go get the tag asap!

Restore this car to original condition.

I thought about putting black stripes on my roadrunner but decided to go strictly by the tag. I am glad I did. You will be too.

You have a rare and unique setup there. Don't turn it into something else. If you want to do that, go find a solid 69 Satellite body and turn it into what you desire.

Beautiful convertible! I kept stripes off my car too!

Here's my data plate. Obviously I didn't take it off before I had the car media blasted.

Crap sorry. I don't see the pic. I will try again. I'm not too compute savvy.

My data plate.

Clay

Late car, low options, cool colors, 4spd... Neat car!!!

Q5 Turquoise Exterior
H2S Pewter bench seat, Black carpet
A4 Pewter paint on upper door

Glad you got your tag! whew!

I'll echo the others comments; paint it Q5. I hate color changes anyway, but at least I can see it when someones changing from something considered undesireable....Q5 is very nice.

As far as the tag goes; do what Dan said, put it on the car with the proper screws and JB weld the back of the screw threads. Take some high quality pics of the tag and store them in a safe place along with a pencil rubbing of the tag.

Great car.

Dave

I will do just as has been suggested.

I really appreciate the input, support and genuine concern shown on this board toward me and my car. I am glad I stumbled onto this community.

Basically a one of one color combo. Awesome car! Most platinum interiors had either white, black or silver exteriors. Seafoam Green is a cool color!