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rallley dash cluster problem #134796
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i think i have just did something bad, i have 1968 ralley cluster, i was trying to install into my car and i accidently bumped one of the 5brass tubes coming out of the back of the cluster, it bent and when i tried to straighten it, it tore almost into, what are the tubes for? i am guessing the oil pressure gauge, how to fix this or is this cluster toast?

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Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: cornet684me] #134797
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can somebody please help me?

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The "tubes" as you call them are actually electrical prongs that the connector plugs into, some people have good results soldering them, I've been lucky & never broken one so I have no proven repair method.. I think RTE )Real Time Engineering) repairs them..

Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #134799
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thanks for the input, i thought they were the oil pressure lines, i think i should be able to solder it the more i look at it


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does any body have a diagram of how the ralley dash cluster hooks up to the wiring harness?

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i am converting a standard cluster out to ralley cluster, i was told that i could covert my standard wiring harness to the ralley gauges, is this true?

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I don't think the connector is the same....

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the main connector is different? does anybody have a picture or diagram of the ralley dash connector?

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Don't you have a rally dash sitting there?? Does the connector look like it will plug in? I thought I remembered the Rally having a circular plug & the standard dash was flat...Memory only * it's been years...My Rally dash is in storage as are my extra wiring harnesses...

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well i got a funny story for you, i have bought all the ralley dash pieces, cluster, bezel, dash pads , radio bezel, glove box , upper glove box bezel, i have not taking my dash apart yet, i am still needing the ralley dash frame, someone had sent me a non rally dash frame and i was trying to make it work, i don't think this will work, well anyway, i have not taken my dash apart yet, in fear that i do not have all the pieces i need to get it to work, so i was trying to put the ralley dash together before i take out my dash

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the ralley dash connect has 5 small bass tubes coming out of the cluster, i do not have the connector to know what it looks like

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Are they in a circular pattern or straight?

Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #134808
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the brass are in a straight flat line, so i guess the connector should be flat also

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Yep..I wonder what connector it is that was round...

Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #134810
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it sure wld help if i could get a diagram or something, this is my first mopar and i am doing this blind, trial and error, and it is turning out that i have more error then trial

there have been alot of good mopar guys that have talked me thru the whole project, i am down to the paint and the interior, i was really wanting to add the ralley dash, but i maybe opening a can of worms

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Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #134812
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okay, i just found a old standard cluster i have, the connector on it is round, it only has about 9wires in a circle, i have my ralley cluster and it has the 5brass flat connector, and then about 20 different wires goint to all the switches, so now i have figure out i need a ralley dash wiring harness to make this work, do i just have to pull out the standard wiring harness and re-install the ralley wiring harness?

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i am just about ready for a drink at this point

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Good Plan...Yeah it sounds like you'll be needing a rally dash harness & I had the connectors reversed in my brain...Must be to much Tequilla...

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where wld i get a ralley harness? do you have one?

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The one I have goes in my 68 Coronet... Swaps, Ebay or Year One$$$$$$ 68 Chargers all had Rally dashes so it's an easier harness to find...

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how much do they go for? is it better to buy a new verus going with a used one?

Re: rallley dash cluster problem [Re: cornet684me] #134818
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New from Year One around $550, used typically $75-$150ish, if you find a clean one I'd run it, most have burned connectors & cut/spliced wires...My original was crusty, I scored a super nice one at a Pick-N-Pull yard ten years ago when I didn't need one & when I tried selling at a swap nobody would give me $50.00 so I stuck it on the shelf & found this car that needed it..

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well looks like the new one is out of the picture for me, i will hitting the swap meets! i am headed to the cruisin the coast in biloxi ms tommorrow, maybe i will find a mopar guy down there.
thanks for all you input


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No problem! Have fun in Biloxi...

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Good luck finding one at a swap meet.
Make sure you check it out good before fitting.
The gauges are easily toasted............ i know i've done it


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how do i make sure a cluster is good?

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are you saying, the wiring harness can be bad and ruin my cluster before i know it?

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i think that i already have a problem, one of the 5 brass prongs on the back of the cluster, one of the prongs have broke off, can this be replaced or should i just try to solder myself?

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We can fix it for you, or you can try to solder it yourself.

If you have another junk cluster around you can sometimes transplant a non-broken pin.

Sometimes you can put a piece of copper wire inside the broken pin, then solder from the back of the board to make it be strong again. The wire inside the pin will make a good place for solder to connect the broken piece to the piece still on the board.


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i have just bought a complete dash with cluster, so i am hoping the with the 2 clusters i will be able to fix, thanks for the input

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