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Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Sport440] #1344695 12/02/12 01:00 AM 12/02/12 01:00 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Find the end of the crack, drill a hole to keep from cracking any further, grind the crack (V it out), Find a local welder with some nickle rod, end of story. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1344696 12/02/12 01:02 AM 12/02/12 01:02 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Find the end of the crack, drill a hole to keep from cracking any further, grind the crack (V it out), Find a local welder with some nickle rod, end of story. c'mon you got to pay the guy when its done! BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: VernMotor] #1344697 12/02/12 01:05 AM 12/02/12 01:05 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa.	now that's funny rite there, i don't care who u are. mr. ritter is bringing me a new block. it's only money, can't take it with u.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: rickraw] #1344698 12/02/12 01:20 AM 12/02/12 01:20 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Hey just laying here watching the news and just a thought but a "short fill" would probably take care of that too. I don't fill my blocks but a lot of guys do. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: VernMotor] #1344699 12/02/12 01:35 AM 12/02/12 01:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,186 OHIO T THE GLASS MAN super stock
THE GLASS MAN super stock T Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,186 OHIO	Quote: Well I am not sure I know anyone who I would trust to weld cast. and who is to say that it is not crack more inside ? maybe I will take it back up and have it magaflux . make sure there is no other cracks. Terry Neer over in Dublin, Ohio welds blocks for a living. 80% of his work is on Hemi blocks.Neer Welding 1-614-873-0969. Tell him I sent ya.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: THE GLASS MAN] #1344700 12/02/12 01:45 AM 12/02/12 01:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Stich pin it. Easy fix, IF that the only crack. Doug

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: dvw] #1344701 12/02/12 03:37 AM 12/02/12 03:37 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,173 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,173 Bend,OR USA	Test,test,test before fixing anything automotive I do have a 440 block in the shop now that was frozen and broke, the drill and stitch method was used to fix it I've had several 906 heads fix that way also under the center exhaust ports, that works very well Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1344702 12/02/12 04:07 AM 12/02/12 04:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 398 Ohio J jdfpam enthusiast
jdfpam enthusiast J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 398 Ohio	I agree with Doug 100%. The threaded pin method works the best in my shops experience. Block filling only will not work. Jeff

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1344703 12/02/12 08:18 AM 12/02/12 08:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Quote: Most cracks don't go in circles It looks like somebody heated the block to get the drain plug out. When the block cooled it's possible the contraction of the metal made that style of crack. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Evil Spirit] #1344704 12/02/12 10:21 AM 12/02/12 10:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I happen to own a 318 that had almost the same crack. We ground it clean and JB welded that baby. That was in 1988 when we couldn't afford a free lunch. Still have that motor and it still runs with zero problems

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: THE GLASS MAN] #1344705 12/02/12 11:03 AM 12/02/12 11:03 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Quote: Well I am not sure I know anyone who I would trust to weld cast. and who is to say that it is not crack more inside ? maybe I will take it back up and have it magaflux . make sure there is no other cracks. Terry Neer over in Dublin, Ohio welds blocks for a living. 80% of his work is on Hemi blocks.Neer Welding 1-614-873-0969. Tell him I sent ya. I was just there, had him touch up some damage on the front of a T56 viper transmission. Nice guy, nice shop, easy to work with. He only takes cash or check, but I didn't find that out until it was time to pay. Told him I'd have to come back. as I was heading out the door, he asked "are you going to take the part?!" he let me take the repaired piece home without having paid anything yet. or taking my name. or taking my phone number, or anything. I could have never returned to pay. Photobucket sucks

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Evil Spirit] #1344706 12/02/12 11:19 AM 12/02/12 11:19 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Quote: Most cracks don't go in circles It looks like somebody heated the block to get the drain plug out. When the block cooled it's possible the contraction of the metal made that style of crack. I wonder about this also. I might have done that. But it has been years ago.. I do not remember.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Sport440] #1344707 12/02/12 11:25 AM 12/02/12 11:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Quote: Well I am not sure I know anyone who I would trust to weld cast. and who is to say that it is not crack more inside ? maybe I will take it back up and have it magaflux . make sure there is no other cracks. That looks like a frozen block crack. If thats the only crack it can be welded rather easy. But, Id be looking for other cracks as well. another weak spot is in the intake vally. Check closely in there as well. If the block was full of water and freezes it cracks pretty easy in there. The crack or damage you show now could of been just residual water that didnt drain out of that area and may be the blocks only damage. If so, like others have said , easy fix. I can weld it for you. Question for you. You stated on another post that you were testing several blocks, like 7 or so, I think. Were any of those blocks .040 over? If so Id be interested in one. I have 3 blocks I going to sell. I know you like later date blocks. I have a 78 that I have not posted yet. but here is the first one I posted last night. need to scroll down the page a little to see it. it is .030 over.. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: jdfpam] #1344708 12/02/12 11:34 AM 12/02/12 11:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: I agree with Doug 100%. The threaded pin method works the best in my shops experience. Block filling only will not work. Jeff I had a Old 1930s inline 8 cy block fixed like this. You was not going buy other one LOL

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: VernMotor] #1344709 12/02/12 02:07 PM 12/02/12 02:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Well I am not sure I know anyone who I would trust to weld cast. and who is to say that it is not crack more inside ? maybe I will take it back up and have it magaflux . make sure there is no other cracks. I can do a dye penetrant check for you and it wont cost you diddly. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: dartman366] #1344710 12/02/12 09:42 PM 12/02/12 09:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 525 Shannonville, Ont Blown 68 R/T mopar
Blown 68 R/T mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 525 Shannonville, Ont	I was also wondering if he had it welded and then put a short fill in it.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: Blown 68 R/T] #1344711 12/02/12 10:08 PM 12/02/12 10:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio poppaj mopar
poppaj mopar Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio	Jamie, Have seen them cracked that way before, usally it comes from being frozen solid and freeze plugs pop and the section around drain plug heaves a little and cracks. It is a easy fix, but make sure to mag it there could be others not visable. poppaj AA/NSS 65'Coronet "Whompin Wedge" Pop & Son Performance 557" B-1 power John Holt Chassis

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: THE GLASS MAN] #1344712 12/03/12 04:43 PM 12/03/12 04:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,431 USA S SSAAHemiFan top fuel
SSAAHemiFan top fuel S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,431 USA	Terry Neer over in Dublin, Ohio welds blocks for a living. 80% of his work is on Hemi blocks.Neer Welding 1-614-873-0969. Tell him I sent ya. Is most of his Hemi work Iron or aluminum ? I have a small concern on a iron Hemi block - I don't think it is a big deal but I would like a expert to look at it

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: VernMotor] #1344713 12/03/12 05:23 PM 12/03/12 05:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Shot blast it, pin it, test it, build it. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Crack block dang gone it ! [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1344714 12/03/12 05:48 PM 12/03/12 05:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Quote: Shot blast it, pin it, test it, build it. My sentiments exactly. There's no need for welding if a quality stitch pin is used. I would be magging the inside of the block before i did anything though. machine shop owner and engine builder

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