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Re: what head is best
[Re: cesar perez]
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11/26/12 10:35 AM
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Lima, Peru
domingo
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Naturally Aspirated I think the Predator would be the best head. The HEMI Millenium is a great head as well, but I think the Predator will outperform it in a NA aspirated application, but not by a whole lot. However, HEMIs are king when it comes to forced induction. If you plan on using a pro Charger, turbos or a blower, HEMI hands down. Having said that, I would not build anything but a HEMI engine if I was spending some coin on a build. The predator just seems like a generic exotic engine to me, not like it is something that screams MOPAR....so Id rather build a more powerful and cheaper Chevy based engine if I were to spend that amount of coin on a generic aftermarket race engine if I just wanted to go real fast.  HEMI HEMI HEMI HEMI 
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Re: what head is best
[Re: domingo]
#1341399
11/26/12 04:35 PM
11/26/12 04:35 PM
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San Angelo, Texas
W8n2DustU
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Sorry Al you are wrong! It's deeze!LOL
2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
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Re: what head is best
[Re: W8n2DustU]
#1341400
11/26/12 04:54 PM
11/26/12 04:54 PM
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Las Vegas
Al_Alguire
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Whatya mean..Those are just a smaller version of mine:) But billet is nice.
Domingo mine are Hemi 99 heads. What they are still using in Pro Stock currently. Marty's are billet P5's which are what they use in Aussi Pro Stock and used in Pro Stock trucks here back when they ran. Both very good pieces. The 99's are capable of well over 600cfm of air flow.
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Re: what head is best
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/26/12 05:12 PM
11/26/12 05:12 PM
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San Angelo, Texas
W8n2DustU
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The heads are very similar for sure! Al that engine looks killer. When are you going to Procharge that thing? My smallblock P5's are only capable of 500 cfm's! But it is still tough to fit this thing in a new Challengers engine bay. 
2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
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Re: what head is best
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/26/12 07:24 PM
11/26/12 07:24 PM
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communist bloc of new jersey
jamesc
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Well does this look HEMI to you?? I will let you draw your own conclusion. They do have a Mopar part number 
no it looks like a confused wedge, i don't know why they call it a hemi
i guess in the end who cares what it's called, they work
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Re: what head is best
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/26/12 08:40 PM
11/26/12 08:40 PM
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Shelton, Ct.
572_HEMI_Cuda
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Well does this look HEMI to you?? I will let you draw your own conclusion. They do have a Mopar part number
I don't have my glasses on.
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Re: what head is best
[Re: cesar perez]
#1341408
11/26/12 09:10 PM
11/26/12 09:10 PM
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australia
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I think for small block P5's hands down. Big block hemi99 would be on top. Not sure which would be better between stage 5 millenium and preditors both can make good power. I just bought this car which has millenium stage5 on 604" with 12-1 made 1145hp and 880fp. Has any one seen it before? 
Peter. Australian Charger, alloy block injected 410in, w9 na 9.03@148 leafs 3000lb
1967 barracuda 605 hemi Stage5 millennium 8.2@170
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Re: what head is best
[Re: charger410]
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11/26/12 09:36 PM
11/26/12 09:36 PM
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I think for small block P5's hands down.
Big block hemi99 would be on top. Not sure which would be better between stage 5 millenium and preditors both can make good power.
I just bought this car which has millenium stage5 on 604" with 12-1 made 1145hp and 880fp. Has any one seen it before?
Yes I have..
Didn't know he was selling it.. 
Chris.. 
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Re: what head is best
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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11/26/12 09:51 PM
11/26/12 09:51 PM
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Quebec, Canada
Diablo
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I'm going to have to say these;) The 5in BS version of Al's
Now we have the small block version, the 4.9 and 5in all in one page!
I must say Al i am jealous of your orange covers!!
Last edited by Diablo; 11/26/12 09:53 PM.
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Re: what head is best
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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11/26/12 11:14 PM
11/26/12 11:14 PM
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jamesc
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Hemi'ish, more like an old Poly than anything.
How would a conventional Hemi head work with a Hemi 99 type chamber? I mean keep the opposing valves etc, just instead of a big chamber, fill it in like a 99. Wouldn't it give the advantage of being able to build quench and use lighter pistons?
you would have to tip both valve angles up to start with, it's a completely different animal
the fact is for the applications being discussed the heads shown are superior, this is evidenced in prostock...and it is not a hemi which i don't see as having any bearing
we'll call it a chrysler hemi cause most people wouldn't know the difference 
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Re: what head is best
[Re: charger410]
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11/27/12 03:14 AM
11/27/12 03:14 AM
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Las Vegas
Al_Alguire
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Dave has some very nice stuff for sure. He has had some issues with "Mopar" engine builders for sure but now that he is having Rick and the RWR crew doing his stuff he shoudl be making some good steam. As for my heap, yep both of them are for sale. Looking to go a different direction so if you know any Aussi buddies looking
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Dave is a buddy of mine and a great guy. Now loose those Barton covers as it is now an RWR hemi 
. I too don't like the rocker covers, Thats the only thing that i want to change.
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