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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: B G Racing] #1340639
11/28/12 01:30 PM
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Well I personally would never build wheelie bars with anything other than round CM tubing, but that is me. The bars Doug has are popular in Stock and a lot of SS cars. they dont really control anything but they do keep them off the bumper which in these moderately HP applications is what they are after. They need the pitch rotation to plant the tire and keep it there, so this style bar is very popular with some of those guys. They are not stiff enough to stop anything or give any control over what is going on but they will keep ya off the bumper in a moderately powered car, hopefully


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340640
11/28/12 02:12 PM
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I'm still a bit confused with the "sprung" and "un-sprung" bars... It looks like the spring is supposed to soften the hit when the bars make contact... which makes sense.. but how hard will it hit if there is no spring and how do I know if I want a soft hit?

The amount of power my new motor makes is still unknown.. We stuck it on a chassis dyno and the numbers we got was not accurate at all.. The graph max'd out at 699RWHP at 6000.. and that was on a part throttle hit as we were trying to roll into the power band because the dyno could not support the torque..

Regardless, I believe the motor has enough power for either a moon shot.. or it will carry the front tires for quite a distance and this is what I'm trying to avoid.. or at least control..

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Jeepmon] #1340641
11/28/12 02:26 PM
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One thing I do like about the spring type(in pic) is
that IF you want to lock the spring you can(make it
solid) with a few washers
EDIT
also with the nut near the wheel you can tighten the
spring to make it beefier(pressure) and get less
movement

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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1340642
11/28/12 02:33 PM
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A backhalfed or stock suspension car that uses a lot of suspension travel usually can benifit from sprung wheelie bars as to not unload the back tires.A chassis car that has minimal suspension travel usually works better with solid bars and becomes a part of the chassis tune.

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: B G Racing] #1340643
11/28/12 02:34 PM
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Don you want a solid bar..


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340644
11/28/12 02:41 PM
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Keep in mind shock adjustment is critical for launch control also.if your pulling moonshots,try softening up the shocks.

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340645
11/28/12 02:54 PM
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This is the new set, with the corrct stagger. You can see by the chalk we get on them kinda hard. Sits them down just about 60'.





Thats just a great looking fast car!!!!


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: hemi-itis] #1340646
11/28/12 03:44 PM
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I am still curious about the packing of the chute.I had planned on all Simpson products.It looks to me that ALL the chutes are a PITA.
Also is thier a science on the length of the bars? Or is it fit what fits




Look at the instructions for packing the two different chutes and you will see the difference, Simpson takes longer. But if you like Simpson get one I have one and just take it out and put it back in a few times and you will get it, like Al said you wont use it that much anyway

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: poisondart2] #1340647
11/28/12 05:19 PM
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Don - FWIW - on the Demon I have 55" round bar sprung near the wheel.

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Lil Demon] #1340648
11/28/12 08:47 PM
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But Demon dont need em He just likes to look cool


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340649
11/28/12 10:22 PM
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Here's my bars(jbrc c-moly)and stroud chute...Like others have said prolly wish i had gone with the launcher on the chute...

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340650
11/29/12 02:58 PM
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But Demon dont need em He just likes to look cool




Oh really? You didn't think you needed them either until that fateful day at Infineon. I like the piece of mind and the hope that one day my car will run like it's supposed to.

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Lil Demon] #1340651
11/29/12 03:05 PM
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Did not need them with the hemi turd that was in it..Remember when it was a slow 8.80 car way back when


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340652
11/30/12 12:56 AM
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Hey Bill.. when is that bad beast gonna see the track again?

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Jeepmon] #1340653
11/30/12 01:20 AM
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Don't you worry about Bill! You'll have me to contend with at MaTS! Heading for Wyo to pick up the engine for the Duster

....but I'll need at least a 2.5 head start!

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: J_BODY] #1340654
11/30/12 02:03 AM
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Woohooo..Some freindly grudge racing...I get the winner


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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1340655
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when you see my 1/8 mile time come up on the board you can leave Al!

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Jeepmon] #1340656
11/30/12 12:51 PM
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Hey Bill.. when is that bad beast gonna see the track again?




No clue. There are some things on it that I want to get addressed before it rolls into a staging lane again. That's time and money and you know my situation - which hasn't improved any.

Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes... [Re: Lil Demon] #1340657
12/02/12 12:52 AM
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What about the single wheel VS the double wheel?????


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My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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