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I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body #133830 10/08/08 01:26 PM 10/08/08 01:26 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	I have a 67 Formula S that I think would be sweet with a new Hemi. Have any of you done this to an 'A' body yet? And how have you solved the issues related to the transplant? I found this http://www.hotrod.com/howto/hrdp_0706_hemi_swap/index.html and it is encouraging but I would still appreciate input from you guys. 4737454-cuda_edited-2.jpg (118 downloads)

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body #133831 10/08/08 01:29 PM 10/08/08 01:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	cool but it would seem not to be to cost effective. You could build a stroked small block that would walk it for a 1/3rd the cost.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133832 10/08/08 01:56 PM 10/08/08 01:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: cool but it would seem not to be to cost effective. You could build a stroked small block that would walk it for a 1/3rd the cost. Really and how much do you think it would cost? I personally think if done right would make the car everyday drivable. Just wish the 5 spd auto would fit with out cutting the floor. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body #133833 10/08/08 01:58 PM 10/08/08 01:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	http://thehemi.com/ Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: HealthServices] #133834 10/08/08 02:27 PM 10/08/08 02:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,686 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,686	datyrodgers I think is how you spell it, has done it in his a body vert. Not done yet as I recall. Do a search on his name. He documented a lot of it.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Andrewh] #133835 10/08/08 04:15 PM 10/08/08 04:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas D Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn
Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn D Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas	Close Andrew, its datyrogers and here is my thread. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID= Its not finished but is close enough to a good weekend of knuckling down I'd be shaking the rafters. Luckly many things have changed since I started mine. It's not an "easy" swap by any means, most of my problems revolved around adding fuel injection to the car and the attending fuel delivery issues and the fact the motor is low and wide so several things had to be moved around. GDemon has also done one or two, I like some of the ways he fixed his fitment issues. I believe he used a take-out whereas I ised a crate motor. If you have any questions I'd be glad to help. -Daty

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Bod [Re: Daty Rogers] #133836 10/08/08 05:15 PM 10/08/08 05:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 649 Davis, California, USA MrBelvedere2 mopar
MrBelvedere2 mopar Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 649 Davis, California, USA	check out this month's Mopar Action, a guy in canada built a sleeper 4 door valiant with a new gen hemi in it. did a very nice job! 1965 Plymouth Belvedere II hardtop

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Bod [Re: MrBelvedere2] #133837 10/08/08 06:39 PM 10/08/08 06:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Portland,OR R rjsjea member
rjsjea member R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Portland,OR	A handful of cars have been done or in my case in-progress, 6.1/Demon. Biggest issue for me was the headers, but my car sits really low. 5.7 front accessories fit better than the 6.1 accessories if you are not using the AlterKtion. Street and Performance (Mark) or Modern hemi muscle (Dave Weber) are good resources. Search it on www.bigblockdart.com 4738091-9-29updates003.jpg (61 downloads) Last edited by rjsjea; 10/08/08 06:45 PM.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body #133838 10/08/08 06:59 PM 10/08/08 06:59 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	I knew there would be lots of help here. It looks like there is plenty to review before making my decision and I will likely be asking many questions if I do it. From what I understand the crate motor has step by step instructions, is that correct? Also if anyone has them might I get a copy in advance? Thanks again guys!

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Bod #133839 10/08/08 08:55 PM 10/08/08 08:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,024 In the twisties R RokketRide super gas
RokketRide super gas R Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,024 In the twisties	http://www.moparsupercenter.com/pdfs/P5153605X.pdf http://www.moparsupercenter.com/pdfs/P5155067.pdf

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body #133840 10/08/08 11:43 PM 10/08/08 11:43 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas D Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn
Daty Rogers World's Greatest Husband. I love you Robyn D Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,442 Texas	Quote: From what I understand the crate motor has step by step instructions, is that correct? Also if anyone has them might I get a copy in advance? Thanks again guys! that is correct but not really step by step though, pm me an address =Daty

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Daty Rogers] #133841 10/09/08 12:15 AM 10/09/08 12:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,712 Sacramento, Ca Darius master
Darius master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,712 Sacramento, Ca	I don't know if this is "Politically correct" on this site but here goes anyway, it is an answer to the question. Visit www.forabodiesonly.com or www.bigblockdart.com I have read several threads about guys who have done this install. By the way, I bought and ENTIRE 07 Charger,insurance totalled but still ran and drove, for $6700.00. You can't but a crate m 5.7 for less that $7000 or so and you still need the carburation !!!! Driving modern convenience in classic beauty

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: HealthServices] #133842 10/09/08 08:25 AM 10/09/08 08:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: cool but it would seem not to be to cost effective. You could build a stroked small block that would walk it for a 1/3rd the cost. Really and how much do you think it would cost? I personally think if done right would make the car everyday drivable. Just wish the 5 spd auto would fit with out cutting the floor. Why can't you make a stroked small block w/ a 4 speed drivable? oh and what 5 speed are you going to use w/ a 5.7 hemi? Add it up. cost of Hemi + electronics+senors/bungs + custom exhaust + trans + fabrication work = BIG $$$ for no real return except the "cool" factor. I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool, just not a real good idea for the average Joe w/ a nice muscle car. A better choice would be a Magnum style EFI car.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133843 10/09/08 09:54 AM 10/09/08 09:54 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,686 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,686	I agree on the magnum being easier and cheaper. But I am a bit bias on that. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4610511 But I think the hemi would be cooler. But about 3 times as much.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133844 10/09/08 12:49 PM 10/09/08 12:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Portland,OR R rjsjea member
rjsjea member R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Portland,OR	Quote: Quote: Quote: cool but it would seem not to be to cost effective. You could build a stroked small block that would walk it for a 1/3rd the cost. Really and how much do you think it would cost? I personally think if done right would make the car everyday drivable. Just wish the 5 spd auto would fit with out cutting the floor. Why can't you make a stroked small block w/ a 4 speed drivable? oh and what 5 speed are you going to use w/ a 5.7 hemi? Add it up. cost of Hemi + electronics+senors/bungs + custom exhaust + trans + fabrication work = BIG $$$ for no real return except the "cool" factor. I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool, just not a real good idea for the average Joe w/ a nice muscle car. A better choice would be a Magnum style EFI car. Quicktime has a bellhousing for 6spd or 5spd, mated to 5.7/6.1's. Several styles of transmissions, TKO, Viper 6spd, Ls based 6spd etc..

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: rjsjea] #133845 10/09/08 12:50 PM 10/09/08 12:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	"Quicktime has a bellhousing for 6spd or 5spd, mated to 5.7/6.1's. Several styles of transmissions, TKO, Viper 6spd, Ls based 6spd etc.." for how much?

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133846 10/09/08 01:33 PM 10/09/08 01:33 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 990 Norwalk, Ohio sycboi super stock
sycboi super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 990 Norwalk, Ohio	Quote: "Quicktime has a bellhousing for 6spd or 5spd, mated to 5.7/6.1's. Several styles of transmissions, TKO, Viper 6spd, Ls based 6spd etc.." for how much? The one I bought was $440. -Michael SuperBeast An enforcer for the Mopar Mafia!

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133847 10/09/08 01:35 PM 10/09/08 01:35 PM
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gdemon enthusiast Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 387 Almont, MI.	I think its a good idea! Mine is in a 71 demon with a 833 4 speed. Jerry 4739729-resizeside.jpg (53 downloads) 69 Barracuda 70 Cuda 70 Cuda 70 Cuda Conv. 70 T/A Challenger 70 Sport Fury GT 71 Demon 5.7 Hemi 72 Demon

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133848 10/09/08 03:33 PM 10/09/08 03:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Quote: cool but it would seem not to be to cost effective. You could build a stroked small block that would walk it for a 1/3rd the cost. Really and how much do you think it would cost? I personally think if done right would make the car everyday drivable. Just wish the 5 spd auto would fit with out cutting the floor. Why can't you make a stroked small block w/ a 4 speed drivable? Never said you cannot make a stroked small block w/ a 4 speed drivable. But 5.7 Hemi has been in cars for a while now. Junk yards have them now. You can find wreaked cars with complete drive trains for less than 5k. If you do it yourself there is a lot you can save. Still not cheap, but a stroked small block is not either. Quote: oh and what 5 speed are you going to use w/ a 5.7 hemi? Add it up. cost of Hemi + electronics+senors/bungs + custom exhaust + trans + fabrication work = BIG $$$ The 5 spd auto I was talking about is the auto that comes with most 5.7 Hemis. With the speeds freeway traffic is running these days you need an overdrive. A stroked small block with 3.91s at the same freeway speeds is not fun and would not be driven much because of that. Quote: for no real return except the "cool" factor. I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool, just not a real good idea for the average Joe w/ a nice muscle car. A better choice would be a Magnum style EFI car. A completed 5.7 to me would be more satisfying than a stroked small block. The return would be the fact it would driven a lot more. And that�s why I would keep the car I got too many projects and not enough money, but if I had the time and money for another project a 5.7/6.1 would be one of them. Along with a later model EFI 302 (O/D auto) in a 66 mustang and a 5.7 (GM) 6spd in a 65 GTO. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: I'm thinking about putting a 5.7 Hemi in an 'A' Body [Re: HealthServices] #133849 10/09/08 03:40 PM 10/09/08 03:40 PM
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clarkj member C Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 114 Iowa	The money isn't as much as you think if you don't go with one of those outrageoulsy high dollar crate motors. I found a 5.7 out of a truck with only 40K on it for 1200 bucks complete. I have personally seen a Dart with a 5.7/727 combo running for under 3K using a junkyard engine. Alot of little homeade tricks to save money are the key. It is not easy by any means, but not nearly as expensive as many make it out to be.

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