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71 -72 B body window louvers #1337395 11/18/12 07:43 PM 11/18/12 07:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,449 Gateway to the West. hemi_harvester OP master
hemi_harvester OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,449 Gateway to the West.	I know Gene Gregory makes them( super nice and super expense) , but I was wondering if anyone else might me making "correct looking" louvers for these cars? Why I ask is I was on Dale's Cuda shop web site and I see he had some Cuda Louvers in the $600 range. Was just thinking out loud that this would be nice to have some &1 Road Runner ones in this price range. There comes a time in life, when you walk away from all the drama & people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh, forget the bad, and focus on the good.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: hemi_harvester] #1337396 11/18/12 10:26 PM 11/18/12 10:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	If you want the real thing Gene is the only game in town. But I have heard some not so nice coments about his stuff, so get schooled on them before you buy, and you have to finish sanding them to fit. You have to drill two holes in the roof if you use them. Also there are some cheap plastic ones on ebay, but are so bad looking I would rather not have any. My car came with them new so I had to buy from Gene. Good luck,if you need any help just yell.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337397 11/18/12 10:53 PM 11/18/12 10:53 PM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	If you haven't done so already, track down Jimmy Boros in MN as he's held the title of key '71-up B-body specialist since Ray Kerkhoven passed away several years ago. Jimmy is a good guy to deal with and if he doesn't have any louvers may be able to give you some leads. Ray, before he passed away, had made moulds for both Charger & RR louvers that were quite respectable. If you can find a set of those they would be a great substitute. Originals have a latch mechanism which is not easy to duplicate, and very few '71-up B-bodies came equipped with louvers (as compared to E-bodies) Good luck!

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: hemi_harvester] #1337398 11/19/12 12:33 AM 11/19/12 12:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,834 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Can... moparmike1 top fuel
moparmike1 top fuel Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,834 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Can...	Since only 71s could have been ordered with them, they are hardly even seen, never mind for sale. I've never seen any 72 documentation that mentioned these being available. AFAIK the Charger side pieces, that attach to the quarter, are shaped different than for a Road Runner or GTX. I'm honestly surprised anyone actually reproduced these to begin with. I remember seeing an orange 71 RR with louvers and elastomeric bumpers in a magazine years ago. It definitely had a unique look and in a good way. Mike. P.S. I remember meeting Ray a few times, must be almost twenty years ago. He had quite the stash of 71-2 B-body parts. He was definitely ahead of the curve there. Too bad he isn't still around. RIP.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: hemi_harvester] #1337399 11/19/12 09:45 PM 11/19/12 09:45 PM
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RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	I won't tell you about a set a friend 'stole' from an E-body guy... Couldn't figure out why they didn't fit his 'Cuda... Sold 'em fer less than $100.00... (Jimmy sold a set still in the un-opened box... BIG scratch)...

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: RSNOMO] #1337400 11/20/12 04:29 AM 11/20/12 04:29 AM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	IF you can find them...hold on to them with a death grip! They look very nice on 71 b's too. Got lucky with my set...it came with a road runner attached! Let me know if you need close up pictures or dimensions. '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71383beep] #1337401 11/20/12 09:04 AM 11/20/12 09:04 AM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Your car looks even better than I remember!

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: YYZ] #1337402 11/20/12 11:19 AM 11/20/12 11:19 AM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	Here's another closer shot of just the louvers. '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71383beep] #1337403 11/20/12 11:44 AM 11/20/12 11:44 AM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	Who painted the trim around your window glass black?

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337404 11/20/12 04:13 PM 11/20/12 04:13 PM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	Quote: Who painted the trim around your window glass black? Actually its the 71 only textured trim used on vinyl roof cars. I do not have any documentation at present to indicate that it was ordered with louvers. I have gone back to the owners up to the 90's and have confirmed that they have been on the car at least that long. They are the correct type that screw into the car and the inner piece is removal by pushing a spring loaded pin on the lower RH side. The bad part about them is that they leak! '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71383beep] #1337405 11/20/12 04:54 PM 11/20/12 04:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	Hey thats the ebay car isn't it? Look on the finder tag, it will say j 68 if it came with them. I looked at that car a lot on ebay, if its the same one. I'm not sure but I think they are supposed to be body color. Sure is a nice car.Do you drive it much? But back to what the original poster asked, you will be sick if you put those cheap plastic ones on your car. Last edited by 71 RR- J68; 11/20/12 05:06 PM.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337406 11/20/12 09:23 PM 11/20/12 09:23 PM
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sogtx master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,180 upstate western ny	Omg think i need to add some weight to the rear of my car https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2TVoO...0429-MOTION.gif

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: sogtx] #1337407 11/20/12 09:32 PM 11/20/12 09:32 PM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	Window Louvers come with the textured trim.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: scatpacktom] #1337408 11/20/12 10:41 PM 11/20/12 10:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	I have a FACTORY, louver Road Runner, and it has regular polished trim just like all the others. But for those who would like to put them on their car, you have to do a lot of sanding and finishing to make them look right, no where near bolt on. And from what I remember most cars were body color except black and white cars, and maybe a couple of others. But even after all the work, a 71 with airgraber and louvers, you just can't beat that for looks.I've owned my car sense 74 and never get tried of looking at it.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337409 11/21/12 12:18 AM 11/21/12 12:18 AM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	Quote: Hey thats the ebay car isn't it? Look on the finder tag, it will say j 68 if it came with them. I looked at that car a lot on ebay, if its the same one. I'm not sure but I think they are supposed to be body color. Sure is a nice car.Do you drive it much? But back to what the original poster asked, you will be sick if you put those cheap plastic ones on your car. Yeah it was on ebay twice. both times no one hit his reserve. One guy came within $500 I guess but he never called and asked. If he did...I would not have owned it. he was a real nice guy and took great care of it. I drive it quite a bit. Flat out one of the best driving mopars i have owned. Starts easy and cruises beautifully. My family has really enjoyed it. No J68 on the FT though... '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71383beep] #1337410 11/21/12 12:22 AM 11/21/12 12:22 AM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	Just because it didn't come with louvers, who cares. That and an air grabber are two of the best looking things that can be put on one. I'd take it, that is if I didn't already have one that has eat me out of house and home.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337411 11/21/12 03:00 AM 11/21/12 03:00 AM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	Quote: Just because it didn't come with louvers, who cares. That and an air grabber are two of the best looking things that can be put on one. I'd take it, that is if I didn't already have one that has eat me out of house and home. Believe me I ain't complaining! '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71383beep] #1337412 11/21/12 10:02 AM 11/21/12 10:02 AM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Theoretically '70-71 Plymouths with rear window louvers were to receive textured rear window trim (E+B body) as one would not want to bring attention to shiny trim underneath satin black louvers. How consistently the trim got installed is another issue entirely. It is surprising that the Dodge designers missed this detail as Dodge was technically more upscale than Plymouth....

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: YYZ] #1337413 11/21/12 10:55 AM 11/21/12 10:55 AM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	Louvers were a 71 only thing, 70s had a whole different body line. And from what I've been told only black and white cars got black louvers. I've seen a orange car with orange louvers, so the black trim would stick out like a sore thumb. It would be nice to know when the holes were added to the roof and 1/4 panel, were they drilled after the fact or stamped during the panel mfg. process.We found evidence that my car was taken off the line and had some more paint work done, but don't know what or why.

Re: 71 -72 B body window louvers [Re: 71birdJ68] #1337414 11/21/12 10:58 AM 11/21/12 10:58 AM
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71383beep top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,647 IL	Quote: ... And from what I remember most cars were body color except black and white cars, and maybe a couple of others... According to the info from the Road Runner Nest: Backlight Louvers (J68) were body color on the following colors: GB5 - True Blue GF7 - Sherwood Green JF6 - Sassy Grass Green EV2 - Tor-Red On all other colors, louvers were flat black. Backlight louvers were N/A on cars registered in the state of Pennsylvania. Backlight louvers required G31 and G33 (Left and Right Chrome racing mirrors) or G36 (Painted Racing mirrors, L&R) This leads me to believe that my car probably was not an original louvered car because it has the standard LH side mirror, but without the BS there is no 100% sure way to tell at this point. I am surprised that FC7 was not listed as a body color option for the louvers. I have scene a B5 GTX with body color louvers and painted bumpers and the car looked absolutely bada$$! '73 GK6 Challenger Rallye - 340 4-Speed

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