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Torque boxs on a body???? #133278 10/07/08 12:16 AM 10/07/08 12:16 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 781 MD HEMI472 OP super stock
HEMI472 OP super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 781 MD	does any one have pictures of a 68 or 69 dart or cuda with torqe boxs?? did they have them on the front and back? would all gts and formula s have Torque boxs? thanks Ed

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: HEMI472] #133279 10/07/08 12:20 AM 10/07/08 12:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,230 restos just aren't my thing gtsuperbee top fuel
gtsuperbee top fuel Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,230 restos just aren't my thing	I know 70 4spd darts got the boxes on the rear and I think, the "wings" up front Restoring a car to look "only" as good as the factory made it is like getting a boob job for your wife and having the doctor make them two different sizes to seem more natural

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: gtsuperbee] #133280 10/07/08 12:44 AM 10/07/08 12:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Based on viewing allot of original cars I have come to the conclusion that all 67-72 A-body 340 and big block cars were supposed to recieved all 4 of them. However, it is fairly common to find original cars lacking either the fronts or the rears, or even all 4, there seems to be no real ryme or reason to it. This pic shows a front TB on an A-body 4734603-A-BodyTorqueBox.jpg (160 downloads)

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133281 10/07/08 12:51 AM 10/07/08 12:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here is a rear in an A-body 4734614-A-TorqueBox.jpg (188 downloads)

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133282 10/07/08 12:52 AM 10/07/08 12:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's what they look like in full view 4734618-A-BodyAllTorqueBoxesBareAAA1.jpg (199 downloads)

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133283 10/07/08 01:34 AM 10/07/08 01:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,679 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,679 Fresno, CA	All of my a-bodies have them, but they also have something else in common, they are roofless (one 340 car and two 273 two barrel cars).

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #133284 10/07/08 01:42 AM 10/07/08 01:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I should also add that I've seen several 318 cars and one /6 car that had them as well, also no ryme or reason except that most of the 318 cars were manual trans cars.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133285 10/07/08 02:09 AM 10/07/08 02:09 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: Based on viewing allot of original cars I have come to the conclusion that all 67-72 A-body 340 and big block cars were supposed to recieved all 4 of them. However, it is fairly common to find original cars lacking either the fronts or the rears, or even all 4, there seems to be no real ryme or reason to it. This pic shows a front TB on an A-body I have a #'s 70 Duster 340 Auto that doesn't have any torque boxes. It's hit and miss. My 340 4 speed 70 Swinger has TB's front and rear.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: RobX4406] #133286 10/07/08 02:29 AM 10/07/08 02:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I have noticed that manual trans 340 cars RARELY lack them.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133287 10/07/08 07:01 AM 10/07/08 07:01 AM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Some fold down seat cars have them as well.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: AdamR] #133288 10/07/08 11:21 AM 10/07/08 11:21 AM
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HEMI472 OP super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 781 MD	thanks for all your help thanks Ed

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: HEMI472] #133289 10/07/08 03:43 PM 10/07/08 03:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,700 North Central USA (MN-WI area) MuscleMopars master
MuscleMopars master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,700 North Central USA (MN-WI area)	My '69 GTS 340 4 spd has all of them but my '71 Duster 340 auto doesn't have any. Last edited by MuscleMopars; 10/07/08 09:00 PM. Thanks, Eric email eric@musclemopars.com 715-426-HEMI (Shop) 612-669-CARS (Cell and Texts) Go to my Moparts "Profile" to see my web site

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: MuscleMopars] #133290 10/07/08 06:27 PM 10/07/08 06:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,615 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,615 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	My observations over the last 30 plus years of working with A-Bodies has shown that over 90% of the 4-speed hardtops have rear torque boxes and very few have front boxes. My 383 4-speed has both. ALL convertibles have both. Very few performance automatic hardtops have rears, and I have never seen fronts on any of them. Of course, we are dealing with Chrysler, so anything is possible! The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Rhinodart] #133291 10/07/08 08:09 PM 10/07/08 08:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 327 Northern BC C Canucklehead enthusiast
Canucklehead enthusiast C Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 327 Northern BC	My 383 4 speed GTS had both, my 318 GT rag has both, and my 70 340 3 speed stick Swinger has both. Yet, oddly, a friend's 69 340 4 speed Swinger has none, and he's known the car since the mid 70s.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Canucklehead] #133292 10/07/08 08:31 PM 10/07/08 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	For the record my 71 Duster 340 has all 4

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #133293 10/07/08 08:59 PM 10/07/08 08:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,700 North Central USA (MN-WI area) MuscleMopars master
MuscleMopars master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,700 North Central USA (MN-WI area)	Quote: For the record my 71 Duster 340 has all 4 Is your '71 Duster 340 a 4 spd or auto? My '71 Duster 340 is an auto with A/C and has none. Thanks, Eric email eric@musclemopars.com 715-426-HEMI (Shop) 612-669-CARS (Cell and Texts) Go to my Moparts "Profile" to see my web site

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: MuscleMopars] #133294 10/07/08 09:07 PM 10/07/08 09:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 781 MD HEMI472 OP super stock
HEMI472 OP super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 781 MD	well guys thanks for your help.there is a guy that lives by me who has a 68 formula s 383 4 speed coupe. he bought it new and it only has 38,0000 miles . the only thing that was changes was the tires and battery and it only has the boxs on the back none on the front.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Canucklehead] #133295 10/07/08 09:11 PM 10/07/08 09:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,615 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,615 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Quote: My 383 4 speed GTS had both, my 318 GT rag has both, and my 70 340 3 speed stick Swinger has both. Yet, oddly, a friend's 69 340 4 speed Swinger has none, and he's known the car since the mid 70s. Canadian cars don't count... The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Rhinodart] #133296 10/07/08 09:33 PM 10/07/08 09:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 327 Northern BC C Canucklehead enthusiast
Canucklehead enthusiast C Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 327 Northern BC	Quote: Quote: My 383 4 speed GTS had both, my 318 GT rag has both, and my 70 340 3 speed stick Swinger has both. Yet, oddly, a friend's 69 340 4 speed Swinger has none, and he's known the car since the mid 70s. Canadian cars don't count... (In his best Doug McKenzie voice) Like, take off, eh? The 70 is Canadian through and through, born in Windsor, but the others have dual citizenship, all born in Hamtramck.

Re: Torque boxs on a body???? [Re: Canucklehead] #133297 10/07/08 09:52 PM 10/07/08 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	Our 1971 Demon has all of them.It's a original 340 4-speed car. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

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