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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: moparacer] #1325906
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That`s what I get for ASSuming............thankxxxxx....


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: Thumperdart] #1325907
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We've run round O-rings in our calipers for years on our circle track car for same purpose.

If you need info, call Jeff Phillips at Willwood. He's a Mopar guy too. And used to help with our circle track car.

Next step for getting rid of rolling resistance is not using wheel bearing grease. We've filled the sealed grease cavity with straight Justice Brothers Heavy Duty Vehicle extreme pressure additive. You had to drill a pin hole in the middle of dust cap to let air out. And the rest of cap must be sealed.

The Justice Brothers Heavy Duty Vehicle additive (p/n#: HDV/23p) is about a thin as trans fluid. Maybe thinner.

You do this on all four wheels and you WILL feel the difference just pushing the car around in the pits.

Doing it in rear with a floater read end is much easier. If you like, you can have your wheel bearing coated for longevity and peace of mind. Necessary on a high speed banked oval car.

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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: autoxcuda] #1325908
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How does that grease hold up under street driving conditions? I`m just a bit weary about that..............


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: deaks] #1325909
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I've just put fresh 0 rings in some wilwoods i've just fitted, cleaned all the pistons up and brake cleaned the bores as well but they are still dragging some.
I found a thread on classracer.com and they suggested using round seals, instead of the square one from wilwood.
Has anyone had a similar problem and these seals cured it and where did you get the seals from ?
Mick


If they came with square ones, put square ones back in them. Pistons should fall through the calaper holes w/no drag. Master cyl piston retracting all the way ? ( pushrod should have some free play ).


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: Crizila] #1325910
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I've put new square ones in, master cylinder is fine, i've had that off as well. I've centred the calipers a little better today and that has improved them. The next thing i'm going to do, is polish them like Rick as done.
I was out tomorrow but i'm not bothering now, so i'll do this amongst some other mods over xmas.
Mick


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: deaks] #1325911
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I have Wilwoods on the front of my Demon.I took a LOT of time to make sure the calipers were centered over the rotors.My Wilwoods do not drag.I also spent a lot of time with the wheel bearing adjustment to make sure they spun freely,although I use grease in the bearings.


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: Chris2581] #1325912
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I have Wilwoods on the front of my Demon.I took a LOT of time to make sure the calipers were centered over the rotors.My Wilwoods do not drag.I also spent a lot of time with the wheel bearing adjustment to make sure they spun freely,although I use grease in the bearings.




Yes you have to have the calipers centered and square with the rotor otherwise it will make pads wear uneven and the pistons will move out futher on one side and then they can hang up.

Also, I use Hawk HB100J-480 pads on my car stopping 3200 lbs at 145.


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: Thumperdart] #1325913
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How does that grease hold up under street driving conditions? I`m just a bit weary about that..............





We were running it in a dedicated racecar. But our side loads are way more than a street car with skinny front tires.

We inspected and changed the fluid every other race weekend (Fri practice. 2 practice sessions, qualifying, 50 lap race).

Our regular traditionally greased wheel bearings would only last about 1/2 season. Our rules dictated a stock spindle with it's small front wheel bearings.

I wouldn't put it in a daily driver for sure. What people consider a "street car" is all over the map.

You'll have to watch and inspect it way more often than if it was traditional grease. A lot more... What are you willing to do to go just that much faster?

Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: autoxcuda] #1325914
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Thankxxx for the info.............I drive less than I used to but still put miles on my heap and don`t like high maintainance so wheel bearing grease will stay............peace!


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Re: round 0 rings for wilwoods [Re: Thumperdart] #1325915
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Thankxxx for the info.............I drive less than I used to but still put miles on my heap and don`t like high maintainance so wheel bearing grease will stay............peace!




I can see that being a little intense and minute for a car like that.

But for a very competitive maybe super stock class racer looking for the next little bit, I'd be all over it. Maybe they run them dry now up front? I dunno, and they probably aren't going to tell. But that extreme pressure lube will make them roll even easier and last longer.

You could tell the difference pushing the car. And we pushed and pushed-off that racecar everywhere with it tiny 6" single clutch.

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