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Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv #1306906
09/19/12 05:54 PM
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I have a 1963 Chrysler 300 Pace Setter with 21K miles. It is a beauty and a real time capsule of Chrysler history. It is all original including the paint, interior, conv. top...etc The battery and a few soft pieces have been changed.

The engine and steering box has a bit of rust on it. Enough to where I am considering pulling it, painting and detailing the engine bay....

QUESTION: Am i ruining the survivor status....WHat qualifies a car as a true survivor? TX


1963 Chrysler 300 Pace Setter Convertible 21K mile survivor 1969 Dodge Coronet 500 1956 Desoto Hemi 1955 Chrysler C300
Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306907
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QUESTION: ...WHat qualifies a car as a true survivor? TX






IMHO, the fact the car is still present with us,...paint away to your heart's content

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306908
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have you browsed a survivor tent?

those cars have better paint on the body then cars I see that have been restored.

Im not too thrilled with what is considered a "survivor car"!

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: LimeliteAero] #1306909
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IMO you will detract from it's "Survivor" status if you paint ANYTHING on the car. The more factory production line original, the better, flaws and all, nothing is more beautiful than an untouched original car. There aren't many left with original engine bay details, ESPECIALLY of your cars vintage.

There are too many so called "survivors" these days, far too many have repainted drive trains, undercarriages, even MOST of the bodies have been painted on some. Once you change something, that "thing" is no longer valuable as a reference for future restorer or historian who are looking for the most minute of details, far too many of which have vanished forever due to some past owners effort to make it "prettier"


Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1306910
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What Scott said. Thing is you can always (or a future buyer) change your mind later and elect to pretty it up, but if you do pretty it up, there's no going back.

Sheldon

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1306911
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IMO you will detract from it's "Survivor" status if you paint ANYTHING on the car. The more factory production line original, the better, flaws and all, nothing is more beautiful than an untouched original car. There aren't many left with original engine bay details, ESPECIALLY of your cars vintage.

There are too many so called "survivors" these days, far too many have repainted drive trains, undercarriages, even MOST of the bodies have been painted on some. Once you change something, that "thing" is no longer valuable as a reference for future restorer or historian who are looking for the most minute of details, far too many of which have vanished forever due to some past owners effort to make it "prettier"






A previous owner decided to paint the engine on my "survivor"....really wish they hadn't.


addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm
Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: Butterscotch71] #1306912
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Show is a pic!

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: LimeliteAero] #1306913
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have you browsed a survivor tent?

those cars have better paint on the body then cars I see that have been restored.

Im not too thrilled with what is considered a "survivor car"!





isn't that the truth.

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: cogen80] #1306914
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I already ordered a bunch of NOS parts for the engine bay..

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Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306915
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Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306916
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That engine bay looks GREAT! I wouldn't change a thing.

I don't see much wrong except the battery, rad cap, alternator, and the plug wires, what NOS parts did you buy?

As far as parts go, keep in mind that NOS parts are not always the same as the production line parts. If you are replacing anything original be sure to save the old worn parts, they are worth thier weight in gold for information on proper details.

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1306917
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That engine bay looks GREAT! I would NOT change a thing.

I don't see much wrong except the battery, rad cap, alternator, and the plug wires, what NOS parts did you buy?

As far as parts go, keep in mind that NOS parts are not always the same as the production line parts. If you are replacing anything original be sure to save the old worn parts, they are worth their weight in gold for information on proper details.




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Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: JohnRR] #1306918
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I bought NOS new battery cables (the originals were replaced..ugh), plug wires, heater hoses (cracked), sparl plug wires (date coded), trans filter, motor mounts, radiator cap, point condensor, and the carb needed a rebuild. Otherwise I'm saving for the battery and the 300 hubcaps (if anyone has a set of these I can use them)...

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Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306919
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Ok, sounds good, but be sure to keep those cracked and worn parts, they may appear to be junk but they have originallity value, even motor mount insulators are date coded.

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1306920
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that car is beautiful!!!!

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: LimeliteAero] #1306921
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I agree. That engine compartment looks great in photos. Just replace the items you have mentioned and let it stay original as-is.

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: JohnRR] #1306922
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That engine bay looks GREAT! I would NOT change a thing.

I don't see much wrong except the battery, rad cap, alternator, and the plug wires, what NOS parts did you buy?

As far as parts go, keep in mind that NOS parts are not always the same as the production line parts. If you are replacing anything original be sure to save the old worn parts, they are worth their weight in gold for information on proper details.




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too; add me to the list. before the pics, I envisioned a really crusty engine, but that looks great! probably as nice or nicer than the one in my 53,000 mile 'Cuda survivor.

I think painting it would be a shame.

Dave


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Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: DPelletier] #1306923
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Don't mess with it. Looks great.

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1306924
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'That engine bay looks GREAT! I wouldn't change a thing. '

Agreed...

There's a whole lot worse out there...

Re: Can I repaint my survivor engine & still call it a surv [Re: 68 Sat] #1306925
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Should not be painted for sure. I envisioned something with more wear on it.

Sheldon

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