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WIRING NIGHTMARE..............NEW IDEA! #1303185 09/12/12 11:35 PM 09/12/12 11:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Being sober and checking out some of my wiring I did a few years ago w/several drinks in me makes me question a few things here. My wiring skills are weak so bear w/me..........Seems I tied several hot wires into my fuse box and not too cleanly and the rest of my big pos. feed wires go directly to my ford relay under the dash so, can I tie all of the wires at the fuse box to the ford relay also? Actually there`s no room left on the pos. post so what would you guys do? Thankxxxx Last edited by Thumperdart; 09/16/12 01:33 AM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1303186 09/12/12 11:38 PM 09/12/12 11:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia tex013 top fuel
tex013 top fuel Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia	use a "buzz bar" common feed in with multiple outlets.any sparky or auto elec shop.maybe NAPA.should be able to supply just love wiring .about to rewire a dash in a 68 barracuda Tex New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tex013] #1303187 09/12/12 11:41 PM 09/12/12 11:41 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	So then can I run a big lead off of the relay to the buzz box and call it good? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1303188 09/12/12 11:45 PM 09/12/12 11:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia tex013 top fuel
tex013 top fuel Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia	that is what i do,you can then run inline fuses per item or a circuit breaker to the buzz bar.Or you just use an aftermarket fuse box - same effect Tex New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tex013] #1303189 09/12/12 11:50 PM 09/12/12 11:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Thankxxxx Tex.............I plan to rewire the whole car someday soon and will replace EVERYTHING under the dash since firewall foreward is good to go. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1303190 09/13/12 12:01 AM 09/13/12 12:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Quote: Being sober and checking out some of my wiring I did a few years ago w/several drinks in me makes me question a few things here. My wiring skills are weak so bear w/me..........Seems I tied several hot wires into my fuse box and not too cleanly and the rest of my big pos. feed wires go directly to my ford relay under the dash so, can I tie all of the wires at the fuse box to the ford relay also? Actually there`s no room left on the pos. post so what would you guys do? Thankxxxx hey thumpper just have an 18 pack and have another look every thing will look normal are you going to make the next nmca race at bakersflield In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: WHITEDART] #1303191 09/13/12 01:29 AM 09/13/12 01:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Being sober and checking out some of my wiring I did a few years ago w/several drinks in me makes me question a few things here. My wiring skills are weak so bear w/me..........Seems I tied several hot wires into my fuse box and not too cleanly and the rest of my big pos. feed wires go directly to my ford relay under the dash so, can I tie all of the wires at the fuse box to the ford relay also? Actually there`s no room left on the pos. post so what would you guys do? Thankxxxx hey thumpper just have an 18 pack and have another look every thing will look normal are you going to make the next nmca race at bakersflield No chit........ It`s been over 100 days and I`m scared to drink now no joke. When is that race? I was shootin for Nov. 3rd for the t&t.............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1303192 09/13/12 11:20 PM 09/13/12 11:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	I am wiring up my car now........I found some Buss bars on ebay from a marine outlet and they had two kinds.....with fuse holders ( glass fuses ) and without. I am powering my relays with the fused one and using the other for low current stuff like the line lock and the switches for the relays. The name of the joint was Great Lakes supply I think , but I am not at the casa to double check. Pretty nice stuff and not a ton of money. Gotta add ....... congrats on 100 days. I know I have certainly done worse things with my life than putting down the juice. Last edited by tubtar; 09/13/12 11:22 PM.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tubtar] #1303193 09/13/12 11:30 PM 09/13/12 11:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR	Use a fuse block from Blue Sea or Buss and Run a #10 wire from the ford relay to the main post on the fuse block. That way you can fuse the line lock, ignition, etc. You can get fuse blocks that hold 4, 6 , 8, 10, or even more fuses. http://www.wiringproducts.com/contents/e...CFWdxQgodxHcAJQ You can also buy fuse blocks with a ground bus so one big ground wire can be ran to the battery/body/whatever and all of the stuff you have powered can have ground that land in the same place. Hope that helps, let me know if you need part numbers. Get some wire labels too, it makes trying to figure out exactly what the hell you were doing six years ago much easier. DAMHIK!

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tubtar] #1303194 09/13/12 11:32 PM 09/13/12 11:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR	Quote: I am wiring up my car now........I found some Buss bars on ebay from a marine outlet and they had two kinds.....with fuse holders ( glass fuses ) and without. I am powering my relays with the fused one and using the other for low current stuff like the line lock and the switches for the relays. The name of the joint was Great Lakes supply I think , but I am not at the casa to double check. Pretty nice stuff and not a ton of money. Gotta add ....... congrats on 100 days. I know I have certainly done worse things with my life than putting down the juice. They make them with the newer (than the twist) plastic blade type ATO/ATC fuses as well. For the big stuff I use thermal circuit breakers that will shut off and be usable once reset if the problem is repaired.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tubtar] #1303195 09/14/12 12:21 AM 09/14/12 12:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Thankxxx guys.......... Wish I could completely wire the whole car but I`m putting my friends 67 big block 4-speed Mustang together from a bare shell up and it`s killin me. This thing was in body shop jail for almost 5 years and the guy told him he spent his money on coke and laughed in his face. Took me 2 hrs. just to figure out how to install one back window and it will leave here complete and running w/a freshly built 480-500 hp 390 so maybe after that......... In the mean time I`ll check out the fused busses IF that`s the best route. Thankxxx for the not drinking kudos........much appreciated. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: tex013] #1303196 09/14/12 02:23 AM 09/14/12 02:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Quote: use a "buzz bar" common feed in with multiple outlets.any sparky or auto elec shop.maybe NAPA.should be able to supply just love wiring .about to rewire a dash in a 68 barracuda Tex Tex, its a BUSS bar, usually a 1/8" piece of copper strip 1/2" wide as long as you need it, then drill to fit #10-32 threads and screw your wires down. You need a stand off to insulate it, used in the aircraft industry a lot. Tim 7378667-lg_busbar_largeScan10030.jpg (59 downloads)

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: astjp2] #1303197 09/14/12 09:29 PM 09/14/12 09:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid 340B5 pro stock
340B5 pro stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid	I cleaned up about 2/3 of my "rats nest" w/a buzz bar and a stand alone fuse block and used those blade type fuses that glow when they blow. It looks a lot better. Get a buzz bar w/ lots of terminals. You'll be suprised how many you use. I'm considering a installing another bar for grounds. Yeah, it's got a smallblock.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: 340B5] #1303198 09/14/12 10:27 PM 09/14/12 10:27 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 928 NC S SLOW67 super stock
SLOW67 super stock S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 928 NC	I just rewired my nightmare recently when I installed my 6al-2 using a buzz bar. I wired mine too with my old friend Pabst originally, I can't beliveve it made it as far as it did lol. Been sober a year now and I've found alot of nice things I've done while under the influence.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: SLOW67] #1303199 09/14/12 10:49 PM 09/14/12 10:49 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	I`ll start by just fixing the immediate problem then rewire the the car from the firewall back maybe over the winter. Thankxxx......... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1303200 09/15/12 01:06 PM 09/15/12 01:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid 340B5 pro stock
340B5 pro stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid	Another thought; Make yourself a wiring diagram when you do re-wire. You'll thank yourself later. Yeah, it's got a smallblock.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: 340B5] #1303201 09/15/12 01:13 PM 09/15/12 01:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart OP I Live Here
Thumperdart OP I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Good idea.......... Plus everything will be labeled. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: 340B5] #1303202 09/15/12 04:03 PM 09/15/12 04:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	Quote: Another thought; Make yourself a wiring diagram when you do re-wire. You'll thank yourself later. When you have a diagram you can run a bundle out at one time and not string it out one wire at a time. My use many colors size the wire and circuit protection (fuse or cir. breaker) for the load use relays for heavy loads ( fan, big fuel pump, etc) keep it as simple as possible so it is easy to fix at the track in a hurry when something fails take you time and buy good parts "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: Just-a-dart] #1303203 09/15/12 05:54 PM 09/15/12 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,773 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,773 A collage of whims	Tip: check your local hardware store in the home electrical area for boxes of uninsulated terminals. They're nice for soldering to the wires and covering with shrink tube. Looks more professional and has less resistance than crimp-on connectors, and in many cases they're less expensive. Same deal on butt-splices where the wire is sleeved or you don't want a visible extension of the wire.

Re: WIRING NIGHTMARE............................ [Re: topside] #1303204 09/15/12 06:07 PM 09/15/12 06:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,100 Rogue River, OR	Quote: Tip: check your local hardware store in the home electrical area for boxes of uninsulated terminals. They're nice for soldering to the wires and covering with shrink tube. Looks more professional and has less resistance than crimp-on connectors, and in many cases they're less expensive. Same deal on butt-splices where the wire is sleeved or you don't want a visible extension of the wire. What he said...and dip the stripped wire ends in no-ox compound... http://www.diversitech.com/Product-Sub-Category?id=a04C000000JpCspIAF

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