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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300039
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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300040
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What I'm wondering ( as controversial as it sounds) is why can't we adopt the LS architecture? There are already old school SBC's and even Fords that have built LS frankensteins already. Make a sbm casting that incorporates the LS ports and make a new Cam, intake and headers?




Adapting the LS head to a SBM would be awesome. However, that is a lot of effort just to preserve the motormount location, distributor, oil pan and bellhousing pattern IMHO. If adopting the LS head platform is the idea, you would be better served to just go all the way and install the LS shortblock as well. The factory iron 6.0 blocks can handle over 1000+hp without hesitation. Stronger inherent design.


Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: pittsburghracer] #1300041
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It's great to see another SBM head on the market and may be a good alternative to the Edelbrocks. I don't see people with Edelbrocks jumping on these though. Mine flowed 293 with a 2.02 valve on Curtis Boggs's bench and now have a 2.055 intake. My next step will be Indys or gen 3 Hemi.

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: justinp61] #1300042
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Well that and the Eddie Victor is supposed to be coming out soon too


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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300043
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FYI the 408 dyno test with airwolf 220 heads got moved to Moparts Hot Deals & New Products. Nicely done MR.Moderator


Just tested the New AIRWOLF 220 Small block Mopar heads. The heads work great. The big kicker is they are non offset heads and take all standard LA hardware

408 Mopar 633hp 562 ft lbs with New AIRWOLF 220 Small Block Mopar heads

4.030 bore X 4 inch stroke
Diamond Pistons 1/16 1/16 3/16 rings Flat top (11.5 to 1compression)
6.123 h beam rod
Crane solid roller 260/266 108 lsa 104 ICL .672 lift with 1.6 rockers
Dr J’s Ported Super Victor
Holley Ultra hp 950
NEW AIRWOLF 220 Small Block Mopar heads
Hooker Chassis headers 1 ¾

tested on 91 octane pump gas

http://youtu.be/_AfyrlVkEdk







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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Bryce Mulvey] #1300044
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How do you think this motor would perform with a custom solid flat tappet cam?


410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Bryce Mulvey] #1300045
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The big kicker is they are non offset heads and take all standard LA hardware


Now you're talkin!!! That would be great for budget-minded racers who don't want to change everything at once.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: 340B5] #1300046
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Anybody thinking of trying these out?

Trying to decide if these are worth an upgrade over my ported RHS heads

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: mshred] #1300047
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Anybody thinking of trying these out?

Trying to decide if these are worth an upgrade over my ported RHS heads




im in that situation also.
i think the weight savings witout any power loss might be worth it.
but i got some chassie upgrades to do first.
it makes me think twice because they are cast in china.

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: sshemi] #1300048
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Anybody thinking of trying these out?

Trying to decide if these are worth an upgrade over my ported RHS heads




im in that situation also.
i think the weight savings witout any power loss might be worth it.
but i got some chassie upgrades to do first.
it makes me think twice because they are cast in china.




He pm'ed me on another forum and told me they have a lifetime warranty against any casting flaws

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: mshred] #1300049
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called bryce and ordered these heads. Going on my 74 traildusters 408, nv3500 5 speed set up.

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: OUTLAW MOPAR] #1300050
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I got to compare the airwolfs to my Shady Dell stage 2's. I have a question into Bryce about the components so I'll wait to hear back.

The intake ports are larger than the Shadys and the 2.08 intake should definately help up top. Bryce does some interesting (read that as cool ) work at the bowl/runner transition that I won't go into...but I like it and understand how it works. But IMO unless you're planning a big (>255-ish) @.050 solid roller AND your combo is under ~3400 pounds with an auto the Shady 2's might work as well or better. Light car with a lot of gear will like these 220 intakes.

My car is around 2900 w/d so I think these will be worth some useable Hp/tq up top

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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300051
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Bobby do you think the air speed in the intake port may be a little slow and hurt a heavy car?

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1300052
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I do on a sub 10.5:1 combo, the real beauty of the SDSS 2's is the flow is still great for the high velocity port design. But a fair number of street compression mild gear moderate weight 408-416 combos might do better overall than with these bigger ports. The SDSS2's keep up fairly well up to about .400 lift

There's no doubt to me the airwolfs have more flow/hp potential.... but they may not be the best Et wise for milder heavier flat tappet combos as I described where average torque through the middle contributes more to the ET. The airwolfs have a very broad torque curve as evidenced on Steve D's dyno mule, but not every combo will ET best with a port that peaks torque at close to 5k...unless your also willing to gear and vert your combo accordingly

As I said I think Bryce is very clever and a highly talented head porter, there's no doubt in my mind.

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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300053
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Not to sound like a jerk but these Airwolf heads are just a copy of thr Eddy heads???? Doesnt INDY have a set of aluminum SB heads besides the 360-1's/-2's???

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1300054
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Mike,

They are ProComp based clones but Bryce said he had suggested some mods to the water jackets that allowed him to mod the ports a bit more than with the Eddies. They're also about 2 lbs lighter for some reason


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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: Streetwize] #1300055
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Thanks for clearing that up. Are the cheaper then the eddys??

Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1300056
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Not sure Mike, the Pro Comps are OOTB (obviously) but to run Bryce's Proprietary port work vs a set of comparably ported Eddies might be close $$$ wise.

As I said it's going to depend mainly on the combo and the HP/TQ curves you want as to which head/port combo would be best overall.


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Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1300057
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Are they cheaper then the eddys??




Less expensive than what Hughes charges for a set of CNC ported Edelbrock castings.
Hughes asks $2831.74 for their CNC offerings plus the price of a decent spring upgrade. http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/produ...mp;partid=27660

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This is from the post over on "Moparts Hot Deals & New Products" that is currently running on the AirWolf heads:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=all&vc=1


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How much are they!!???



Bryce Mulvey
AIRWOLF 220 Small Block Mopar

HYD roller spring complete $ 2200.00
Solid Roller Springs Complete Ti retainers $2600.00

Heads come with Manley race flow valves and Manley springs
STD Installation Height of 1.950

AIRWOLF 220 SBM
2.08 intake 1.60 exhaust 45 ° seats
2.48 CSA @ pinch( my prototype was 2.52 but it did not work out on the CNC production head)

Intake Flow numbers @ 28” test @ Reher Morrison
.100 72 cfm
.200 144 cfm
.300 219 cfm
.400 273 cfm
.500 301 cfm
.600 312 cfm
.700 316 cfm
.800 319 cfm
.900 321 cfm
1.00 326 cfm



Re: airwolf sbm 220 heads!!!! for a sb mopar [Re: topbrent] #1300058
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I have a question into Bryce (I'm hoping he answers soon) about the springs used on the Solid roller set-up.



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