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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267479
03/23/13 04:05 PM
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So I guess I'm delving deeper and deeper into mopardom. I just went out this morning in response to a CL ad and bought myself an 8 3/4. The deal was a pretty good deal to not to pass. Basically it's an A-Body 8 3/4, open, 2.76 gears, sbp, 489 case, with all the brake lines intact. It's just a little dirty and greasy but that should clean up no problem. I didn't mind the gear ratio as I'd like lower rpm for highway cruising. The guy I bought it from worked on differentials beforehand. He was a diehard Ford guy who had about 2 E-bodies, 1 A-body, and a couple Jeep projects (none of which were even close to being complete besides the Jeeps).

Right now the diff is off to the side as my 7 1/4 was working fine before I started working on the car. I'll swap this guy in when I change out my leaf springs and possibly get new wheels this summer. I probably won't get any real time working on the car for another 2 months or so. The baja car is going fine. We should be testing around campus this week and then next weekend it's off to the desert! Of course I will always include pictures. I should really start working on my Dart as my parts are just stacking up in my garage and I'm running out of room!




Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267480
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Cool ! Were you able to get the u bolts and shock plates with it? If not, be on the lookout for some. They are different than the ones on your 7 1/4.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: JDMopar] #1267481
03/24/13 01:59 AM
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Cool ! Were you able to get the u bolts and shock plates with it? If not, be on the lookout for some. They are different than the ones on your 7 1/4.




That didn't even come accross my mind when making the purchase.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267482
03/24/13 11:11 PM
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Nice score!


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267483
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I think a running,driving,68 GT with interior and body complete n that nice, is an awsome project,first timer, whatever !!! Good find !! Good job !! Keep us updated,please !! Thanks !!


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: 68sportsspecial] #1267484
03/29/13 03:05 AM
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I think a running,driving,68 GT with interior and body complete n that nice, is an awsome project,first timer, whatever !!! Good find !! Good job !! Keep us updated,please !! Thanks !!




Thanks. It is much uglier in person and no longer running and driving. I tried putting the brake hub together today but it was no good. I stripped a couple lug nuts trying to man handle the studs in the hub. Couldn't even get one in all the way. Luckily a guy on FABO offered me to use his press and air tools for free, so luckily in a couple month or so I may be able to take a trip and have him give me a hand.

Baja is baja. It definitely can get stressful at times. We got the car running and driving. Right now we're testing and trying to work out all of the bugs. R&D, testing, and tuning is pretty cool and possibly something I'd like to do as a possible career path.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267485
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So here is a long term update. I was working out with my best bud today and I pitched him the idea for a San Francisco road trip next year and he loved the idea. Then I told him, "In the Dart." And of course he got a little hesitant. He basically told me, "I don't want us breaking down or stuck in the middle of nowhere forever because something major failed." If I can ensure him that he said he would have no problems with it.

So here is my new goal... Get the car 100% mechanically sound in 1 year to take on a road trip up to Northern California. I pitched him some ideas about possibly going up PCH through Santa Barbara (spending some time there) and head out to San Luis Obispo to spend one night. Then from there we just man handle it up to San Fran for another 3 nights. We would like to spend a day at Great America and we definitely want to go to the Fisherman's Warf one afternoon.

Anyways, we have a while to plan it. Back to the car. So now I am trying to get down a list of things I want/need to do to the car to make sure it is safe and sound. Here is the list I have come up with so far. Please feel free to add anything I may miss or haven't even thought of:

Wants and/or Priorities (in no particular order)
1) Fix power steering couple or switch over to power steering column.
2) Switch over to A-body 8 1/4 or 8 3/4 rear end (keep small bolt pattern for now).
3) Install aftermarket radiator to ensure the car doesn't overheat (I have a mechanical fan and shroud, but I better be safe than sorry if I can cool the car down more).
4) Fix/replace passenger door lock.
5) Fix/replace sending unit (gas gauge doesn't work or works when it wants to).
6) Fix temperature gauge (I haven't seen it work at all).
7) Fix driver side window issues.
8) Get the AC going (there's no compressor, but it is usually cooler in North Cal and I have windows that will roll down).
9) Thorough check of suspension, brake, tire, and fluids before trip.
10ish) If time and budget allow, switch everything over to big bolt pattern and install disc brakes in the front.
11) Clean out the rust in the trunk.

Anything else you can think of? Thanks for following me and for the support!




So it's been 10 months since I made my goals and so far I'm nowhere close to reaching them. The car has been sitting for 4-6 months now with little to no work being done. It doesn't seem like I'll be able to take my San Fran road trip this year. I've been getting that big itch to just finish up the brake system so I can drive her already.

Unfortunately school, work, and baja are getting in the way. Our last baja competition is a week from Tuesday in Washington. After that I'm going to need to catch up on school work a little and 3-4 weeks after that I should be done with school for this year. I'm going to see if my friend is up to helping me fix the firewall and brakes (essentially what we started) right after comp, but he may be a little burned out as I am. All I know is that I don't believe I can finish the brake stuff myself. We'll see how it goes.

New goal... Get the car running nicely during early/mid summer and start driving it. I want to redo the entire suspension this summer as well even though I'm probably not going to get to it; however, I'm not even going to touch or order anything until brakes are done and the car is moving. Things on my list are poly-bushing suspension rebuild kit, subframe connectors (probably custom), f/r sway bars, new leaf springs, new T-bars (I'm thinking 1.00" or greater), FF Stage 3 box, and 17" wheels and tires (probably some polished Streeters from Show Wheels).

The only thing on my agenda for the summer is working M-F, working out, and some designing and testing on my free time for next year's baja cars. So, I should have plenty of time to work on the Dart. Wish me luck. I'm probably going to be asking lots of questions.

Note: Btw, if you missed it, here are pictures from my Tennessee competition. Scored 11th overall out of about 87 teams. http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/muumuu101/library/Baja%20Tennesee%202013

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267486
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So it's been 10 months since I made my goals and so far I'm nowhere close to reaching them.




Sorry to hear that, but it's not entirely surprising.

When you start measuring project time in years (and I hope for your sake you never do), let me know.


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: DynoDave] #1267487
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So it's been 10 months since I made my goals and so far I'm nowhere close to reaching them.




Sorry to hear that, but it's not entirely surprising.

When yo ustart measuring project time in years (and I hope for your sake you never do), let me know.




I was thinking about the car today... Plan is to get back to work in a couple weeks. I'm thinking, once I get new wheels, to take off most the GT trim and put a butt stripe on it even though it will have all of the trim holes. I was also thinking about making Carbon Fiber interior door panels and possibly dash in the future...

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267488
05/07/13 12:45 AM
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I've found that just doing something, anything, that shows some kind of measured improvement will help. Or the idea of heading towards improvement. I have half a stripped 383 in the garage. Stripping it is a PITA. But I'm taking some cans of paint with me on Wednesday and hope it has two coats on it when I leave. Still not in the car or running, but having a fresh looking engine is going to get me moving faster.
My problem is wasting time. People stop by to chat. The die grinder keeps the compressor running. So the challenge is in stepping away and being productive on something else!
Hope to see you back on it soon!


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: OhioMopar] #1267489
05/07/13 01:55 AM
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I've found that just doing something, anything, that shows some kind of measured improvement will help. Or the idea of heading towards improvement. I have half a stripped 383 in the garage. Stripping it is a PITA. But I'm taking some cans of paint with me on Wednesday and hope it has two coats on it when I leave. Still not in the car or running, but having a fresh looking engine is going to get me moving faster.
My problem is wasting time. People stop by to chat. The die grinder keeps the compressor running. So the challenge is in stepping away and being productive on something else!
Hope to see you back on it soon!




I'll definitely be starting it soon; however, my problem is not having the confidence or time to work on the car. My family is starting to ask about it.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267490
05/07/13 12:51 PM
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I don't think you should have a confidence problem. Everything you've done you've done well. You've listened to advice given and took your time. The time is a problem noone can seem to help with! Lol. Keep plugging away and keep using the vast resources on the board. You'll be back on the road before you know it!
You lucky hippos and your clean cars....


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267491
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Well I briefly talked with my friend yesterday. I told him, "Hey! When summer comes around, we should get back on the Dart." He was not very enthused and said, "Well, I got my car I need to work on." He's talked to me about his Demon before and all I know it needs is an alignment as the entire suspension and brake system is new from last summer. He said, "It still needs small things." So I guess if I want things to get done more quickly I'm going to either find another helper, or go buy a bunch of tools and attempt to do it myself. Which also means I'll have less money for upgrades. Super nervous about doing it myself but a guy has got to learn some day I suppose. This would probably be a good time to pick up a welder and learn how to weld.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267492
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So this is a list of what I need done so it will hopefully be running and driving:
1) Press wheel studs in rotors/hubs (FABO member offered to help me with that)
2) Replace/rebuild calipers
3) Clean welds on firewall from replacement panel
4) Weld new "ears" (for MC mounting location) for brake pedal mount
5) Drill holes in firewall and brake pedal mount to mount MC
6) Install and bench bleed MC
7) Bend and install new brake lines from Distribution Block to MC
8) Bleed entire system
9) Install Steering Column (ready to go)

It doesn't look like my friend is going to be much help, so I'm going to need to buy most the tools and do it myself, I guess. Since I didn't have the tools and I was bored today, I decided to tinker with the driver's door a little. I figured out I'm missing a roller that goes into the window track. Since that's not there, my window rolls up and down at an angle and often gets stuck. I had to pull the plastic film that was on the tracks as it was getting the window stuck also (it was already torn up to begin with). I knew the door wasn't original to the car, but I figured out that the adjustable mirror didn't belong to the door as I started to take it off to make sure all the adjusting cables were intact. The hole to mount the adjusting knob mechanism doo hickey was only drilled to barely clear the threads and not the trim ring that goes into it. Then there's still the issue where the window is crooked on the door and won't close properly. That one perplexes me, but part of the problem is that the car is raised in the front by jacks. I'd need to see it with all 4 wheels on the ground. The previous owners are killing me.

So, the plan for this summer is to buy some tools and fix the Dart so at least I can drive it around school time. I figure I'd need a cut off wheel to grind the welds, a hole saw to cut the hole for the MC input, brake line bending tools, line wrenches, etc. Anything else you guys can think of? I'm not sure if I want to get a welder just yet as I'd like to practice first. Unless I just buy it and practice at home.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267493
06/08/13 02:27 AM
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Went to the pick-a-part today and pulled out the brake pedal assembly out of the 75 Valiant so I don't have to reweld, measure, and drill holes into the one I had. I tried getting the spindles out of the Cordoba but I was getting tired (went after work) and I didn't have the right hammer to get the studs on the UCA off the spindles. O well, it's not a necessity. I have pictures but it's taking forever to email them to myself.

Plan on getting back on the Dart in a week. I have finals this week. Hopefully I pass my classes with all the school I missed from baja.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267494
06/17/13 01:49 AM
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Ok, it's my first weekend since I've failed all my finals and I am absolutely bored to death. Perfect reason to get back into the Dart on my free time. I've got a lot of questions and all I need is some tools and some cajones. Let's get this Dart back on its toes.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267495
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I am (pretty) sure you are kidding about failing all your finals. If not, You have a good basic set of tools and this board should give you all the cajones you need. So get to work


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: Shoozy] #1267496
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I am (pretty) sure you are kidding about failing all your finals. If not, You have a good basic set of tools and this board should give you all the cajones you need. So get to work




The sad part is that I'm not kidding. Still waiting for grades for the two classes I'm not too sure about. I just bought a grinder and hole saw and should be getting to work this week. Dying of boredom.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267497
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Started getting back to work and building up my cajoneses... Going to be working for awhile tonight.

Edit: And only a half an hour or so later I already got too carried away and now am going to need some bondo/filler for some gouges I made in the weld area.

Edit 2: It's worse than I thought (definitely not a bondo fix)... I broke the welds and there's a hole all the way through in 2 spots. -_-

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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267498
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Well I briefly talked with my friend yesterday. I told him, "Hey! When summer comes around, we should get back on the Dart." He was not very enthused and said, "Well, I got my car I need to work on." He's talked to me about his Demon before and all I know it needs is an alignment as the entire suspension and brake system is new from last summer. He said, "It still needs small things." So I guess if I want things to get done more quickly I'm going to either find another helper, or go buy a bunch of tools and attempt to do it myself. Which also means I'll have less money for upgrades. Super nervous about doing it myself but a guy has got to learn some day I suppose. This would probably be a good time to pick up a welder and learn how to weld.




Not trying to be out of line here but it sounds like instead of having feelings of your friend won't help you, turn it around and go help him finish his ride,
Then the two of you have a Hot Rod to hit the streets in and at night or weekends he'll be more than happy to finish up the Dart with you.

One Hand Washes the Other!!! You'll build a stronger relationship with him and you'll also learn from him.

Back in 1978 if it wasn't for my friend Matty helping me do the clutch in my Satellite I would have been paying people to work on my car's my whole life!!
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