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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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09/14/12 11:28 PM
09/14/12 11:28 PM
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If you have lost that much fluid, it should hard to hide. Like any other oily product, it usually spreads out...a little makes a big stain/wet spot. That much should not be hard to find (assuming it was full when you got it...which I guess we don't know for sure?)
You could try pulling the wheels and checking things over, but again, if it's a large leak, you should be able to spot it without doing that.
Same with the lines...the black flex lines at each front corner joining the steel lines to the calipers, and at the rear axle, joining the hard line on the body to the tee on the axle. If you find nothing in these 3 places, try tracing the steel lines from the master cylinder on out to each corner.
Next, check inside. Is there fluid running/dripping off the pedal assembly or it's linkage? Look up under the dash to be sure.
If you stil lhaven't found it, you should check your vacuum booster. If the master cylinder leaks at the back of it, it drains into the booster. From there, at can be drawn into the intake manifold via the rubber vac. hose that runs from the booster to the intake. Pull the booster vac. hose off at the intake. Is the inside of the hose wet with brake fluid?
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: DynoDave]
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09/14/12 11:59 PM
09/14/12 11:59 PM
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MuuMuu101
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All 4 corners are dry and there is no wetness at the pedal. MC is dry as well and no fluid at booster or intake manifold. However, it's hard to tell in the front since the front end of the car is extremely greasy. I did happen to see some wet spots on both UCAs.  On some side notes: -All front end parts are ridiculously greasy and are going to need some cleaning. -The Y-Connection for the exhaust looks really wet/greasy. Idk what that may be related too. -I always though my car had a unique rumble. I found out I have an aftermarket muffler. I don't know which one. I just know it's made in the US. Again, like everything else in the car, it is mounted by crappy, unprepped MIG welds to scrap. I also went to Lowes and Harbor Freight today. I got the brake bleeder at Harbor Freight. I also found the 3 ton jack and stands on a poster Lowes had by the other jacks but they told me to order it on the internet since they don't carry them in store. I go on the internet and it's not there.
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1267361
09/15/12 08:04 AM
09/15/12 08:04 AM
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56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: moparpollack]
#1267362
09/15/12 01:05 PM
09/15/12 01:05 PM
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http://www.lowes.com/pd_12823-20535-85012_0__?productId=3339188&Ntt=jack
Thanks... 
We're going to Costco today, so if I don't find a good one there I'll order it this afternoon... Only thing is that none of the stores have it in stock and they don't ship it by UPS/FedEx/USPS so I'm guessing it's going to take a while. 
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1267363
09/15/12 02:33 PM
09/15/12 02:33 PM
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...I pulled the car forward and there was no apparent damage to the car or property at the time, but a red light appeared above the speedometer after the crash.
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So I limp the Dart home slowly and on the last big hill to my house I had major brake fade. The car wouldn't let me shift it to 1st gear to lower the speed (I was in 2nd), brakes didn't work (it didn't occur to me to pump it till afterwards), hand brake didn't work. So at the light (green) I made a sharp right turn at 30 mph and took it home another .5 mile. I checked the car this morning and frames look solid, there's just a small scuff on the bumper, and the rear quarter panel paint is chipped. I just want to park it in the garage right now and not look at it for a long time....
You've got to check, inspect, and maintain your car so it is safe for others around you on the road.
Put some brake fluid in it and check for leaks.
You don't need a brake bleeding tool to bleed the brakes. You've got a bigger issue than just air in the line anyways.
Either the rear wheel cylinders are leaking or it needs a master cylinder. Both things you can get at the parts store. Wouldn't be a bad idea just to change the master cylinder just for safety reasons.
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1267366
09/15/12 03:38 PM
09/15/12 03:38 PM
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http://www.lowes.com/pd_12823-20535-85012_0__?productId=3339188&Ntt=jack
Habor Freight has better deals. $60 for aluminum jack and $16 for two 3 ton stands with current coupon.
I was just there yesterday looking at their jacks and I didn't really feel like waiting for Lowes to deliver it.
Harbor Freight's have metal wheels and better price. Not going to beat it if you use those coupons.
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: autoxcuda]
#1267369
09/15/12 07:08 PM
09/15/12 07:08 PM
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MuuMuu101
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I just went to Costco and they had a 3.25 ton without the jack stands for $105. A little much for me. I'm going to head out to Harbor Freight later today and probably pick everything up.
Just a quick question with regards to brake fluid. I've got some dot 3 in my cabinets, but I opened it about 2-3 months ago to fill up the brake fluid in another car. Is it still good? I heard they go bad quickly due to their ability to absorb moisture or something.
Good enough for what you are doing to fill up the empty master to see what is wrong.
You will end up replacing the master and/or wheel cylinders very soon. Like immediately. So don't sweat the open brake fluid container. It's a humongous deal anyway.
Ah, lovely. With regards to the Harbor Freight coupons, where can I find them. I have the pamphlet with some of their sales and I didn't see the 3 ton aluminum one for $60. I also checked their online coupons and couldn't find them.
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1267373
09/18/12 08:37 AM
09/18/12 08:37 AM
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I can't believe that one person has not posted what I am about to say, and by all means I am not trying to be a dic4 For approx. $150 you could have 3 new hoses, 4 wheel cylinders, and a master cylinder. This should have been the 1st thing you did, rather than almost killing people including yourself each day its on the road. Also, take a look at the news where people DIE under cars where jacks fail, etc. I could not imagine trusting my life to China Freight jack stands, let alone pay $60 for a jack that will most likely give up soon. Think of it this way, and I am late and thinking it myself: You pay the small amount now. Wait a few months and it gives up and you are back spending it again. You could have spent the $103 and been fine, even though I would probably save up and go alot higher. All in all, you have waited this long to get a car. Have a little patience and fix it right the first time and move onto the next issue. 
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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process...
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1267376
09/27/12 11:51 PM
09/27/12 11:51 PM
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MuuMuu101
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Howdy y'all! Just have a few questions. Just checking to make sure, but is this the MC I'm going to need for my car? http://napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NMBP1877_0358914604And would these be the proper wheel cylinders? http://napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=UBP37053_0074910318I started up the car today to keep the battery fresh and when I turn on the headlights I still get the red light above my speedometer and the brake pedal is really stiff. I'm guessing that light means I still have no brakes. Also when I started to rev the engine a little soon after starting it, the car stalled. I'm guessing that's just a cold start thing but just in case I'd bring it up. I'm going to be ordering my MC, a hose or two (I still have some I ordered a couple months ago), some wheel cylinders, and possibly some brake pads/shoes. I still haven't bought the jack or stands. I just want to drive and enjoy the car for now.
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