Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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After my pass at Zmax, I put the Rocky on the trailer. I went into the valve covers to check/re-set the valves and saw the adjuster stud on the #4 intake sheared off a thread or 2 into the nut. Good thing I didn't make another pass but now it's got me wondering if the metallurgy of the adjusters themselves is sketchy...anybody had issues with the Comp stuff? Pushrod length/geometry is great, about 1 to 1 1/2 thread below the body showing and close but adequate cup to body sweep clearence. All the rest look fine but I'm now a little suspect of the steel in the studs being adequate for the job. The lash loosened up only slightly (fortunately) just to the point where I could hear a faint tick after the pass. Fotunately I was going to routinely check them all anyway. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif) The Cam is a Cam Motion Roller with 266/269 @.050 and .585/.570 gross lift, comparatively mild endurance (1995 IROC 358 Dodge grind). Lash is set at .016I/.018E. Rocker ratio is 1.5:1 Thoughts? I'm thinking I'm gonna go get some ARPs.
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Re: Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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06/10/12 12:21 PM
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Can I assume the nut was laying in the bottom of the head? If so, check the spot facing on the rocker arm. You will likely find it isn't 90 deg to the adjuster so when you tighten the jam nut, it tries to bend the adjuster and being made out of stuff that don't bend, it goes snap. It doesn't have to be off by much either, a very few thou will do the deed. I ran into this with a set of knock-off rockers on my build. Set all the valves and went home. Came back in the morning and 6 jamnuts were laying on the floor. Kevin
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Re: Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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Twostick, Yeah, I found it in between the valvesprings ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif) . Never imagined the stud itself would ba an issue, I would think (unless is was bad metallurgy) it would take a tremendous amount of energy to shear a high tensile stud like that??
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Re: Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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I don't know the torque, I've never torqued an adjuster nut ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) ~1/4-ish turn past snug. The comp stainless I've never seen loosen up but I have seen aluminum rocker nuts loosen. I've never had one of those fancy box wrench torque wrenches to go around the allen wrench. All the nut does is tension the ball stud to keep it from moving out of adjustment, that's what has me vexed. I've heard of it happening before, just confused about the cause & effect of it all.
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Re: Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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06/11/12 12:19 PM
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I've run those rockers for a few years now without issue on a similar solid roller. 262 @ .050 and .648" lift. Where it snapped is similar to what happened to the Crane golds I had on a smallblock. Those were the ones with the bad heat treat from Crane. Maybe you should look into getting some new adjusters for all 16.
I had the same thing happen with the Cranes as well. They sent me a new set, but I ordered a set from Smith Bros just to be sure. I'm with the replace all the adjuster studs crowd on this one.
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Re: Comp Magnum Rockers, broken adjuster stud?
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06/12/12 02:13 AM
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Yeah, it looks like the safe play.
Got the typical Comp tech line 'GURU' that apparently thinks 'shear' is a style of panty hose
If the spotface is off the nut isn't shearing the adjuster, it's trying to bend it. If one side of the nut contacts the rocker and there is clearance on the other side because the spot isn't 90 deg to the adjuster, it will try to bend the adjuster when you tighten it down and it just snaps the adjuster off like a pretzel. They are harder than the top of God's head and quite brittle so they bend about as well as glass does.
Put a new adjuster in that arm and thread the nut down finger tight and check all around it to see if it makes contact completely. If you have contact on one side and even a couple thou daylight on the other it will do it again.
Kevin
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