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383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car #1230670 05/09/12 10:37 PM 05/09/12 10:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	So I sold my Dart and have started collecting parts to get my old rebuilt 383 stuffed in my 32' Roadster so I can run the Mopar races. The engine ran 11.60's in my 3100 Dart with a junk 10" TCI converter back in the day. I rebuilt the engine a couple of years ago as a spare and listed it for sale but since nobody is interested I might as well use it. I have added some 440 Source Stealth heads to replace the old 906's. Its a basic build with TRW 12.5 pistons, .557 Mopar Cam, M1 intake and a 750 Quick Fuel E85 carb. The Roadster runs 9.70's @ 133 with a 396 BB Chevy with Steel Heads, PowerGlide, 8" 5000 stall converter, 4.77 Gears and 14.5 x 32 tires. If the little 383 runs close to 396 I'll be thrilled. Over the winter I'd like to stroke the 383 similar to the combo I ran in my Dart (400 with 440 crank, 2.2 Chevy rods...etc...) but I'd like to get this thing together by June. Anyway what do you guys think it'll run with the little 383? I'm guessing 9.90's. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230671 05/09/12 10:40 PM 05/09/12 10:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	Ahhh: I think low to mid 10's. It depends on all the support systems. Correct gear, convertor etc. Sheldon

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1230672 05/10/12 08:18 AM 05/10/12 08:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	to run 9.70 in a 1900lb car it'd take what 400-425hp??? A warm 383 should come close to that. I can see 10.0's. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230673 05/10/12 08:49 AM 05/10/12 08:49 AM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere S smokinwoody I Live Here
smokinwoody I Live Here S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere	if you make an honest 450hp and at 1900lbs, you should run 9.40's-9.60's...so high 9..no problem...

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: smokinwoody] #1230674 05/10/12 12:09 PM 05/10/12 12:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	i smell 9s. makes me wanna git a roadster. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: maximum entropy] #1230675 05/10/12 01:12 PM 05/10/12 01:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO. S Slingshot383 mopar
Slingshot383 mopar S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO.	My 383 with 312 heads, TRW pop-ups, a Hughes .600" solid cam, tunnel ram with a pair of Holley 750 double pumpers, Torqueflyte, 4.56 gears, 1600 lbs. ran 9.50's like clockwork. 1994 Undercover Chassis 125" altered stack injected big block, soon blown and injected Member of The Torque and Recoil Club

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Slingshot383] #1230676 05/10/12 01:57 PM 05/10/12 01:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	A friend had a 72 Chevelle with your basic 355 in it. Ran 11.70 best. Sold the car roller and stuck the engine in a 225" WB hard tail dragster and its been 9.40 I believe. only change being headers obviously. You shouldn't have any issue getting a 9 second run out of it. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230677 05/10/12 03:01 PM 05/10/12 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,061 Oregon	That engine should make 450 to 500 hp unless the rings are totally wasted. If the car is really only 1900 lbs then you'll easily go mid 9's if you can get it to hook up. The car will go about 140 mph thru the lights so you better have the gearing correct.

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: AndyF] #1230678 05/10/12 09:41 PM 05/10/12 09:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	Its a fresh 383 at this point with new rings, bearings and heads. I hope you guys are right. I just want it run close to the 396 or I'll never hear the end of it from my Chevy buddies. The chassis on the Roadster flat hooks ...I had BondoBob redo the chassis last winter. Last weekend it went 6.15 over and over. AndyF - I just sold my Dart with the 413 crank you turned down for a B engine and 2.2 Chevy rods that you sold me years ago. That 458' engine still runs amazing for what it was. 6.50 in the 1/8th and 10.30 in the 1/4. I don't suppose you have any more cranks like that laying around? 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230679 06/01/12 05:53 PM 06/01/12 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	The resurrected 383 is almost ready to run. Engine is now complete so I just have headers and powerglide adapter to workout. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230680 06/01/12 06:13 PM 06/01/12 06:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 260 arizona S stockerbill enthusiast
stockerbill enthusiast S Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 260 arizona	I sold my old arrow with a tired 383,trw 11.5's,mp590,ootb eddy's,glide and 456's no tune up at all and goes 10 teens in phoenix@2100 lbs

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: stockerbill] #1230681 06/01/12 06:35 PM 06/01/12 06:35 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA Bigbeep super stock
Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	You guys are making me want to lose some weight. About a 1000 pounds would make a good start. beep

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Bigbeep] #1230682 06/03/12 11:25 PM 06/03/12 11:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 147 Milledgeville, (central) Georg... B Bighead440 member
Bighead440 member B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 147 Milledgeville, (central) Georg...	Our slightly lighter 207"wb nostalgia FED ran 8.70s at just shy of 160mph in the heat/humidity of south Georgia (SGMP Cecil) with a .060" over 383 (395"). We ran a 4.30 gear and a Powerglide with a 5000rpm, 8" PTC converter and 33" M/T slicks. The motor had the same TRW 2293F pistons (flycut) and stock rods with ARP2000 waveloc bolts. We ran "915" iron heads, ported and polished by www.killiansportingservice.com and a Lunati solid flat tappet cam just a touch bigger than the .557" (265/271@.050", .576/.563", 108LSA) with Crane roller rockers and pushrods. 2 x 660 Holleys on an old Offy tunnel ram and "zoomie" headers gave it that retro look. AND it was one of the baddest SOUNDING cars wherever it went! Shifted @7200. Have fun!!!

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Bighead440] #1230683 06/04/12 09:36 PM 06/04/12 09:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	Shifted at 7200 running 8.70's on a stockish bottom end 383 - that's awesome! I doubt I'll zing mine that high - probably 6400 tops but you give me high hopes. I'm a bracket racer through and through so I just want something consistent that I can run the piss out of. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230684 06/05/12 10:45 AM 06/05/12 10:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 147 Milledgeville, (central) Georg... B Bighead440 member
Bighead440 member B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 147 Milledgeville, (central) Georg...	Quote: Shifted at 7200 running 8.70's on a stockish bottom end 383 - that's awesome! I doubt I'll zing mine that high - probably 6400 tops but you give me high hopes. I'm a bracket racer through and through so I just want something consistent that I can run the piss out of. I still have the motor, I want to put a Reed solid roller I have in it, with a valvespring swap and a TM6 with a single 850 Holley, then stuff it in a straight axle Gremlin I have... BTW: We swapped this motor for a 471" B stroker with ported Eddy RPM heads and a mild solid-roller cam (274@.050", .645" lift) and only went 8.10s/170mph with the same carbs and intake. Now we have a M1 tunnel ram and 2 x 850 Holleys and it just runs in the 7s, needs more CAMSHAFT... The 3.38" stroke motors love to rev, so my advice is put a set of rods in it and zing it appropriately!!!

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Bighead440] #1230685 08/24/12 03:12 PM 08/24/12 03:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	The engine swap is almost complete and I hope to post pictures later today as I pick the car up from the fab guy here in a bit. The guy is flat-out a welding Jedi-Master - he re-worked the aluminum engine plates, fabricated valve-covers, built the headers, re-routed the steering shafts and the welds are just amazing. If I can get everything buttoned up tonight I'm hoping for some track results tomorrow. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230686 09/08/12 12:37 AM 09/08/12 12:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	Finally got out to Test n Tune and it was mostly a success. Only 3 runs but ran 6.44 @103 and seems like alot more left. That MPH is way low because it just didnt want rev as I found the valves were lashed too tight and not fully closing once it got hot. Tomorrow I'll be busy re-tightening head bolts, lashing the valves and giving everything a once over. Heading back to the track on Sunday to see what it runs with the correct valve lash and hoping to go some rounds. This little 383 sounds just nasty in the burnout box and instantly revs up. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230687 09/08/12 06:05 AM 09/08/12 06:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon V viperblue72 top fuel
viperblue72 top fuel V Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon	That translates to a 10.o

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: viperblue72] #1230688 12/30/12 05:03 PM 12/30/12 05:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	So my little roadster is getting a full make over this winter including new engine, trans, wheels and paint. The lil' 383 had some major issue and ended up spinning a rod bearing after just a few more runs. The fact that it ran 6.40's is amazing because the cam had wiped lobes, 2 rings were messed up during install which gouged the block and the head gaskets were leaking. It was just a big mess and all as a result of rushing to get it together. The new engine is being machined and assembled at Mann Performance. Its still a 383 but this time it has eagle rods, billet main caps and a slightly larger cam. The builder expects it to run low 9's but I'll be happy with 9.70's. I have finished the new paint and have a few more hours of polishing before we can start putting it back together. Hopefully everyone appreciates the retro muscle-car theme inspired by the amazing art work of Bruce. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230689 12/30/12 06:07 PM 12/30/12 06:07 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	That looks Wicked!! I love it!!! Lets see a pix of that FED Light Weight Cars--gotta love them!

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230690 12/30/12 06:52 PM 12/30/12 06:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: So my little roadster is getting a full make over this winter including new engine, trans, wheels and paint. The lil' 383 had some major issue and ended up spinning a rod bearing after just a few more runs. The fact that it ran 6.40's is amazing because the cam had wiped lobes, 2 rings were messed up during install which gouged the block and the head gaskets were leaking. It was just a big mess and all as a result of rushing to get it together. The new engine is being machined and assembled at Mann Performance. Its still a 383 but this time it has eagle rods, billet main caps and a slightly larger cam. The builder expects it to run low 9's but I'll be happy with 9.70's. I have finished the new paint and have a few more hours of polishing before we can start putting it back together. Hopefully everyone appreciates the retro muscle-car theme inspired by the amazing art work of Bruce. If the actual car looks like the pic then it's going to look killer Shaun, and should run great too. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: dartman366] #1230691 12/30/12 10:04 PM 12/30/12 10:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	It sure does 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230692 12/31/12 12:44 PM 12/31/12 12:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	I managed 130 mph on one outing with my 383 in a 2900lb a body. Chassis wasn't set for engine, so it did 10.50s.. I figure it should have done 10.20s leaving hard. RIP little 383,, rod came apart in august.

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: RemCharger] #1230693 12/31/12 04:19 PM 12/31/12 04:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am. J Junky master
Junky master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am.	Very cool car and engine!. Maybe letter on the side: "A real" 383 I hate it when some doof thinks my 383 is a stroked 350 Chebby. 2010 Black Challenger SE <> 3.5 V6 Custom Shift Knobs www.flameball.com Check It Out

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Junky] #1230694 04/07/13 09:48 PM 04/07/13 09:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	So I got the car all back together and to the track for the first test and tune. She ran 9.97 @ 131 but I think there is a bit more in there. Should be a great bracket motor. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230695 04/07/13 09:51 PM 04/07/13 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	I can't wait for next weekend. 9.97 @ NTR 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230696 04/07/13 10:01 PM 04/07/13 10:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	love the car, thats slick

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: Quicktree] #1230697 04/07/13 10:08 PM 04/07/13 10:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!! 3 340RICK master
340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	I hope you put the 383 billboard on the roadster it really looks cool

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 340RICK] #1230698 04/07/13 10:44 PM 04/07/13 10:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	The billboard 383 should be ready soon. It's taken a few tries to get the template just right. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230699 04/15/13 10:11 AM 04/15/13 10:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart OP pro stock
69dart OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	Got a few more passes on the new combo yesterday. Had a great day - made it to 3 cars and ran 6.23 several times shifting at 5800. I think there is some more in there with a jet change and cranking up the shift point. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230700 04/15/13 10:29 AM 04/15/13 10:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,015 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Sounds to me like you will be in the mid/low nines, let it rev a bit!! Congrats on a great combo. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230701 04/15/13 10:47 AM 04/15/13 10:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Got a few more passes on the new combo yesterday. Had a great day - made it to 3 cars and ran 6.23 several times shifting at 5800. I think there is some more in there with a jet change and cranking up the shift point. 5800...you are leaving a bunch on the table. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: 69dart] #1230702 04/15/13 11:02 AM 04/15/13 11:02 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Nice ride.... 383s are considered a high reving engine... let it rip

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1230703 04/16/13 03:43 PM 04/16/13 03:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 37 Pataskala,Ohio DartDoll member
DartDoll member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 37 Pataskala,Ohio	For his "wifes" sake I am glad he shifted at 5800 for the first major weekend out. Track just wasnt completly there due to the cold and wind and he defintalty got lose several times going down the track. The car looks amazing and I am so proud of all the work and dedication he has put into the car since this entire thing started last September. Cant wait to finalize the template to get that 383 billboard on there. Glad to have it back to all mopar and get running in the Mopar races again. Hopefully get the Challenger out there and get some sweet shots of the cars sitting pretty next to each other! Meg His Car-1933 Dodge Roadster-383 BB My Car-1974 Dodge Challenger-340 SB

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: DartDoll] #1230704 04/16/13 06:43 PM 04/16/13 06:43 PM
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poppaj mopar Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio	Car looks real nice Shawn. Nice paint job! Is Ryan G doing the billboards? poppaj 7670629-IMG_5151.jpg (24 downloads) AA/NSS 65'Coronet "Whompin Wedge" Pop & Son Performance 557" B-1 power John Holt Chassis

Re: 383 with Stealth Heads in a 1900 lbs car [Re: poppaj] #1230705 04/16/13 08:35 PM 04/16/13 08:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon V viperblue72 top fuel
viperblue72 top fuel V Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,141 junction city oregon	Very cool car

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