IT'S BACK!!!
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05/03/12 04:23 PM
05/03/12 04:23 PM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Labratt
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Good Ol Randy B!
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,325
Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
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Mike Rafferty(Mr. P-Body) and I picked up my 440 shortblock from St. Clair Engine this afternoon. Sean Meyers(former Best Machine engine builder)did most of the machine work and ALL of the final assembly. A little more work had to be done than I thought going in...but...I wanted a rock-solid bottom end,and everything equalized(balanced)as much as possible. That's the reason for the aluminum main caps,studs,and h-beam rods.I also purchased a Mancini rear seal holder,to HOPEFULLY quelch any oil leaks from that area! Besides going with stronger bottom end pieces,I had the cylinders honed with a PLATE,and the piston skirts were moly coated,for a .005 skirt/wall clearance.Also, the block was decked for trueness.Only needed a .003 cut. All in all,I feel I can sleep better at night,knowing I won't/SHOULDN'T have a bottom-end issue! I know..there's NEVER any guarantee,but I feel pretty confident with BOTH..the new parts,and Sean's abilities! Again..my GOOD friend Mike Rafferty has ALWAYS been there when I've needed his help! He's one HE** of a GREAT guy..but a LOT of you already knew that,I'm sure! Here are a few pics of the bottom end...and YES,I have more shrink wrap,since I can't start putting it back together for another week or so! Randy
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: 383man]
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05/03/12 09:29 PM
05/03/12 09:29 PM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 998 Clinton Township, Michigan
Dartin
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Clinton Township, Michigan
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Looking Good Big R!!! Glad to hear you are happy with Shawn's work. Rest assured, you now have a more durable piece that will give you years of good service. There will always be unplanned expenses, I was told to plan for about 10% and that was about right. The extra expense of the dyno was worth it's weight in gold for me. I just had a conversation with Sean (HardcoreB) about this today. I got a proven piece as well as sorting out the carb and timing. I probably would have chased my tail for the whole season over the carb alone. As for Raff, he's OK in my book too ! I've been very fortunate to form friendships with both You and Mike. Good luck with the move and if you need anything, please call. Talk to ya real soon. Randy
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: Labratt]
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05/03/12 11:01 PM
05/03/12 11:01 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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Romeo MI
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Thanks EVERYONE! Bubba..you're right..Sean is a REAL nice guy! He ALWAYS answered any question I had about the build..without a second thought! Clanton..NO cam button!..I run a pretty stout solid flat tappet cam. Dom..I CRINGED on every 6500rpm up-shift!..NOT ANY MORE! BTW...nice shot of the Dart in action! Raff...sounds like it's time to get rid of that "wimpy" [Email]286@.050[/Email] race cam! Randy..Thank You VERY MUCH for your referral on Sean..your help with pulling the motor,and ANY help with the ole' car in the future! You mention dyno time is worth it's weight in GOLD..which I agree 100%..but..GOOD friends, like Mike and Yourself,are worth TWICE your weight in GOLD! ..WOW!..that's a LOT of gold!!!..hahahaaaaahh!
Are you saying we are a couple of FAT A$$es... lol you might be somewhat right...and I think I will pull the cam thats in the engine now and have it re-ground... since that engine is on the stand anyways
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: B Dartman]
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05/04/12 12:54 AM
05/04/12 12:54 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Labratt
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Thanks Wade..Bill! Wade,the rods are K-1 Technologies 4340 H-Beams,and the aluminum caps are SD Concepts,out of Troy,Mi.,and owned by a GREAT guy named Jerry! He took over BCR's operations a while back. He also fabricates the old BCR stud girdle sets...and they look VERY NICE...as well as the caps! The crank is a '70' factory forged unit,that has had all the oil holes chamfered,journals polished..and now,because of the piston coating,and new rods..30 grams of mallory added to the front and back throws..for a close-to-perfect balance! Is anything REALLY ever "perfect"???...I think NOT! But,I could be proven wrong,I suppose! The cam is a Comp custom,SQ lobe,solid flat tappet. The specs are .579I/.585E lift...duration is 262I/266E @.050,with a 108 LSA,center-lined at 105*. I was running consistent 11.20's-11'30's @ 118-119mph last season. Should pick up noticeably,now that the heads have been cnc-ported and milled .060...by Jeff@ Modern Cylinder Head. Heads are Edelbrock Performer RPM's......Bill,the car project has basically been put on hold indefinately! We're in the process of packing up our SOLD house...and searching for another one about a half hour to 45 minutes south of where we're at currently! OR...CLOSER TO DETROIT!...but not TOO close! Thanks for the kind words,fellas! Randy B.
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: Labratt]
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05/04/12 10:35 AM
05/04/12 10:35 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,907 S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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S.E. Michigan
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Bet your're happy to get it back Randy Looks great Quick question since rpm came up here + in one other place where the picture was posted: Has your car historically ran it's best when shifted higher than peak hp rpm (rather than at peak rpm)? Just wondered/comparing notes like always
Rich H.
Esse Quam Videri
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: ZIPPY]
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05/04/12 11:41 AM
05/04/12 11:41 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Labratt
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Good Ol Randy B!
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YES,RON! Kudo's to Raff!..once again! He's a true friend! I'd be in a world of hurt,without his help! Thanks,Rich! After the dyno session at Jake's a few yrs. ago,I tried shifting at the peak hp rpm..which was right at 6,000. I normally shifted it at 6500. It slowed down a tenth or 2! I believe,with the heads being ported,the peak hp rpm will increase a bit..maybe 63-6500 rpm,that's just what I'm led to believe,after talking to a few knowledgeable people! If that's the case,I can see raising the shift points to 6800-7,000. That was my main concern with the stock caps and rods! I feel certain I made the "right" decisions on doing what I did! I suppose I could be proven wrong,though! ...Brad...ya got a nice Race Demon I could borrow?..AGAIN!!! I still have a real nice 950HP which belongs to Russ Dudek,in Pa. THANK YOU,Russ!
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: tboomer]
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05/04/12 12:00 PM
05/04/12 12:00 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,907 S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Thanks, nothing like real testing.
Reason I asked is because I think I found something similar to Ted (seems to be better with slightly lower rpm shifts), but haven't completely proven it yet.
Rich H.
Esse Quam Videri
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: dartman366]
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05/04/12 02:56 PM
05/04/12 02:56 PM
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Joined: May 2004
Posts: 3,210 robin hood country
deaks
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I shift at 6200 with mine Randy, my motor is similar to yours but i have more comp. Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: IT'S BACK!!!
[Re: 340RICK]
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05/04/12 10:08 PM
05/04/12 10:08 PM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Labratt
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Good Ol Randy B!
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Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
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Thanks everyone! Ted..beers will be on Raff! I hope that happens in the future! Zipster,I'll see what the dyno says,when I get it back together...then do some experimenting at the track! Bill,appreciate it! It's been a task trying to find a decent house in our price range,that doesn't need a LOT of re-do's! A $150,000 house initially...can easily end up a $180,000 money pit!..EASILY!Sorta like a certain green GTX! It's not going to be easy..but,we're not giving up! For as much as my wife LOVES this house..which is VERY nice,she's grown tired of the inconvenience of being 45-60 minutes away from most of our friends and family..and the same amount of time for her to drive to work! We're not getting any younger,that's for sure! WISH US LUCK! As far as getting the car done..I'm shooting for the end of June..mid-July the latest! Rick,I just hope it's as strong as it looks! Thanks,buddy!
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