Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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Need a quick answer. Thanks.
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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Dave
what he said , also to use dot 5 you have to get all traces of any other brake fluid out .
so i am told
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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YES they can mix DOT 3 and DOT 5 without any problems. if you mix the 2 type of fluids it will not be much better than the poorest quality fluid. there was a post on this subject a while ago that had the federal law stating they had to be mixable. when i change over to DOT 5 i just remove as much DOT 3 out of the master with a suction device. then i pour in the DOT 5 and bleed until i see the DOT 5 at the wheel cylinders. after i do a 4 wheels i bleed out about 1/2 of a master cylinder full at each wheel and call it a day. i usually use 1 to 1 1/2 quarts of fluid to do this. one thing to remember is DOT 5 retains air like DOT retains water. i like to place the DOT 5 in the hot sun for a hour with the cap off to help solve this problem.
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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I knew I wouldn't get away with a two-letter answer for long! OK, No they won't "mix"; chemically that's not possible. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but that's where this thread is heading methinks. Yes you could top up a non Dot5 system with Dot 5 but unless it's an emergency and nothing else is readily available, you shouldn't. .....there, better? Dave
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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YES they can mix DOT 3 and DOT 5 without any problems. if you mix the 2 type of fluids it will not be much better than the poorest quality fluid. there was a post on this subject a while ago that had the federal law stating they had to be mixable. when i change over to DOT 5 i just remove as much DOT 3 out of the master with a suction device. then i pour in the DOT 5 and bleed until i see the DOT 5 at the wheel cylinders. after i do a 4 wheels i bleed out about 1/2 of a master cylinder full at each wheel and call it a day. i usually use 1 to 1 1/2 quarts of fluid to do this. one thing to remember is DOT 5 retains air like DOT retains water. i like to place the DOT 5 in the hot sun for a hour with the cap off to help solve this problem.
if this is the case, excellent info
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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MrT2U's info is correct.We use Dot 5 in postal vehicles and have ZERO problems bleeding it.We bleed our brakes in the normal manner if using Dot 3/4 fluid.
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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In an emergency you can even use water.
What is the real question here. Do you want to blend 50/50 or are you worried about some trace amounts for a swap?
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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Scare stories are perpetuated by the deceitful to scare the ignorant.
Too true. Below is a pic of a 50/50 mix of Dot 3 and silicone that I poured together back in '82 to dispell the "gel" myth.
The jar has been heated, frozen and agitated countless times and this is what it looks like today, just two liquid substances separated with no gelling.
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Re: Can you mix DOT3 and DOT5 brake fluids?
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Beautiful!
I had a similar plastic Coke bottle with DOT3&5 that I kept in my garage for several years with the intent of showing the same result - two liquids living peacefully very near each other, but not together. I was even using old used fluids, thinking that as a worst case scenario, used fluid would be it. After several years of periodic violent shaking, sitting open, closed, hot, cold, sun, dark... nothing but clear fluids. The tint in the DOT5 was fading a bit, and the DOT3 was still ugly, but that's about the only changes I saw.
One thing I feel I need to mention is the moisture absorbtion aspect of DOT5. Specifically, it doesn't, for all intents and purposes. That doesn't mean that water is going to pool up in the system somewhere because it doesn't get absorbed in to the fluid. DOT-not-5 will suck moisture out of the air, DOT5 won't. If you don't put water in your system on purpose, it's not going to get in there through DOT5 fluid. That's the primary thing that extends the life of DOT5 over not5. The other fluids absorb moisture from the air, reducing their boiling point, and leading to corrosion in the system. The not5 fluid needs to be flushed completely every couple of years at most. DOT5 could be flushed that often, but it doesn't need to be. I end up flushing my DOT5 about every 4-5 years, mostly because I keep upgrading the brakes or suspension. Been using the stuff since about 95, after my own unfortunate firewall paint experience.
Clair
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