Re: '66 383
[Re: jeebis44]
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I hear there is a problem with the cylinder head valve seats?
what exactly have you heard.
Though it's not a bad idea to have hard seats installed while you are having the larger 1.74 exh valves added to those 516 heads .
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Re: '66 383
[Re: JohnRR]
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04/26/12 06:08 PM
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I hear there is a problem with the cylinder head valve seats?
what exactly have you heard.
Though it's not a bad idea to have hard seats installed while you are having the larger 1.74 exh valves added to those 516 heads .
OP - sorry for the quick hijack......JohnRR, do you know how long it takes for the seats to get ruined?
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Re: '66 383
[Re: mikemee1331]
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04/26/12 06:10 PM
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I hear there is a problem with the cylinder head valve seats?
what exactly have you heard.
Though it's not a bad idea to have hard seats installed while you are having the larger 1.74 exh valves added to those 516 heads .
OP - sorry for the quick hijack......JohnRR, do you know how long it takes for the seats to get ruined?
On a car that is occasional use ??? can't say.
If the car is going to be a daily driver and/or see extended run time at highway speed then by all means put in the hard seats .
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Re: '66 383
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if your on a real budget just put some new main, rod, cam bearings in it, hone the cylinders, put some new rings on the pistons. a new timing chain, lap the valves, maybe this cam and lifter set from summit- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-K6400/w/ valve springs to match new gaskets and valve seals which are usually included in the gasket set. probably around $500 if you do all the work you possibly can. maybe 4X that amount if you pay someone to do it.
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Re: '66 383
[Re: jeebis44]
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04/27/12 12:13 AM
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The ticking noise - yes, probably a lifter.
As for oil, I'd use either a High Mileage oil or a HDEO (diesel oil). Use 10W30, 10W40, or 15W40 depending on your oil pressure and climate.
It's Swifty! Swifty, you toad sucker!
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Re: '66 383
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04/27/12 02:06 PM
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When I pulled the 516's off of my 383, to port them, the valve seats were severely sunk and beat down. My motor was running the MP 933 valvespring, 484 cam, at the time. They have something like 300+ lbs pressure at around .500 lift IIRC. Dunno any history on it, was used and abused prior to me. We can only guess until you tear into yours and find out. Pay the $$ and get hardened seats and upgrade to 1.74's as mentioned. Otherwise a hone and re-ring + freshen the valveguides. The valveseats will get beat about pretty good when the guides are sloppy.
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: '66 383
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04/27/12 02:14 PM
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First of all, about any oil would be okay for the engine. Your cam is already broken in and if it is stock cam stock springs there is nothing to worry about. You probably have less than 100 lb seat pressure, probably closer to 85 lb, and a valve lift of 0.425 or less. If and when you change cams and springs, it would be more important. It's not fashionable to say that, but it's the truth. If there was a real problem with old stock engines it would have come out by now. NOTE: I was in WalMart the other day and ran across a new product, High Zinc motor oil, rated SL, not SM or SN. It may have been Valvoline. It's not expensive and would be what I'd suggest for a stock daily driver. If it was a high dollar engine with big cam and springs I'd go Joe Gibbs Driven oil. But you don't need to spend that amount.
If the lifter is ticking it is probably because of varnish and I'd suggest running Diesel engine oil for a month or so, because the Diesel oil has really high detergent levels which might clean it up. But the high detergency makes it harder for the zinc compound to work. So for the long run, a gasoline engine motor oil is probably better.
R.
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