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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: ahy] #1221498
04/26/12 02:46 PM
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For the high zinc oil, buy some diesel engine oil. Rotella T or local equivalent would be fine. A can of STP would be added insurance but not necessary unless you have real high spring pressures.




Diesels oils have gotten emissions friendly also over the past 4 or 5 years , there isn't as much zinc in them as there used to be .




My understanding also... they still have around 1200 PPM zinc which is sufficient for a normal FT application so a good option.




Maybe the content is higher in the oil here? There is no EPA to breathe down their backs...

I asked the Mopar Gods, the blessed 4/26 day, and a little magic from my brother above. I got her started...I felt a cold wind brush against neck when I turned the key.

She starts, she runs, first turn of the key. Now I have to go get another 5 quarts of coolant and some distilled water...aiming for 50/50 mixture.

There is a tick somewhere in the lifters, I dunno which bank, but I wanna warm her up first and see if the lifter fills with oil and see if it disappears.


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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Pyper70] #1221499
04/26/12 02:55 PM
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Don't forget a small exhaust leak can sound like a lifter tick .

Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: JohnRR] #1221500
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I used the same gaskets from the Fel-Pro kit that were on there already. It wasn't ticking before. I cranked them down but I'll go through and re-torque them again tomorrow. They won't stay on there long though, I still have to get to the exhaust shop and have them put in a new mid-section. When the headers go on I'll be installing the RemFlex gaskets on the entire system.

I can't thank you enough John and the rest of you fellas for the help, the tips, the know-how.

I really need to cut down the jets tomorrow on the primary carb, she is running very fat. Im calling it an early night...its 930 now....considering yesterday I went to bed at 3am


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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Pyper70] #1221501
04/26/12 06:53 PM
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Check the manifold vacume in gear, make sure the power valve vacume rating is lower than the manifold vacume, no matter what anyone else says on here about power valves and manifold vacume BTW, some lifters will tick on start up after being collasped, maybe tick four or five times after start up and then quit ticking. Drive it far enough to get the oil hot (150F+) and exhaust hot, shut it off an restart it four or five times before worrying about the liter ticks

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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Cab_Burge] #1221502
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Check the manifold vacume in gear, make sure the power valve vacume rating is lower than the manifold vacume, no matter what anyone else says on here about power valves and manifold vacume




pretty sure he is running ebrock carbs .

Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: JohnRR] #1221503
04/27/12 09:10 AM
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Check the manifold vacume in gear, make sure the power valve vacume rating is lower than the manifold vacume, no matter what anyone else says on here about power valves and manifold vacume




pretty sure he is running ebrock carbs .




Righty-O...Dual 500 Edelbrocks. I have 10" in gear. I think I can do a little better on it...I used to have 14" with my single 750 but she had more fuel economy than brawn with that setting


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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Pyper70] #1221504
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I actually scored a bottle of Torco Zinc Additive today, dude didnt have Amsoil, Lucas or Gibbs. Last bottle he had...little expensive since its imported ($25). I'll order 2-3 for my shelf from the States.

Also bummed he didn't have my choice Castrol GTX 20w50 anymore...he said its one of the most expensive oils in the States now and he has no clientele for it here...He sold me a bottle of the Torco TR-1 20w50 for $10 (again...expensive..but its to compliment my four quarts of Castrol GTX I have left over for another oil change) but since I do an oil change every two years on average for the miles I drive. It's not that bad I guess


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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Pyper70] #1221505
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Why are you using such a heavy oil ?

Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: JohnRR] #1221506
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I dunno...thats what I have always run...Ran it on my Slant 6...ran it on my 452, ran it on this 440. It was a good blend. My friend put me on it because I believe my Slant when it first started in my hands had 100k miles on it. I needed to take up the slack in the cylinders. Even after it was rebuilt, I kept with 20w50. The 452 had loose clearances and I was running straight 50 grade but it was replaced eventually by 20w50. When we put this 440 together two mechanics and one engine builder told me 20w50 is fine

Its the age old dilemma...what oil should you run. I have great oil pressure, 60lbs at idle, cold. 40 when hot.

What do you run in yours?


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Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: Pyper70] #1221507
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10/40. I've run 20/50 in a high mileage motor but that was just a bandaid .

Re: Adjusting valve lash [Re: JohnRR] #1221508
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Found the possible tick...after I took apart almost all the lifters on the passenger side yesterday, cleaned em out, and bench bled them back to pressure...the #6 Intake is spongy. I am hoping that as I run this motor in now to temperature so the oil galleys can fill as well as the thermostat opening to drink more coolant to get the lifter to pump up. Otherwise...looks I'll be pulling the manifold again tonight


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