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Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake #121600 09/16/08 07:26 AM 09/16/08 07:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,... The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast
The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...	Ok planing on building a 440 for my cuda and using after market alum heads 440-1 or Mopar Stage VI or along those lines... has anyone ever done this with a Shaker Hood set up e.g. Hood, Bubble like you can get from Harms or sixpackperformance.net??? If so what combo did you use? The Shaker set up is really what I want so if it cant be done, I need to change my engine plans. I did utilize the search feature on this site before I asked the question and came up with no results on this topic, if this issue has been addressed in the past please forgive me and thank you for your time. Don Street/Strip 73 Barracuda

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: The Cuda Guy] #121601 09/16/08 08:43 AM 09/16/08 08:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A.	You are going to have to MODIFY the baseplate to get the shaker to fit , the heads you are talking about both have raised intake runners which will raise the height of the intake when installed. I'll assume you will not be running a stock cast iron intake with either of those head choices so that is going to make things worse , carb higher up .

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: JohnRR] #121602 09/16/08 09:52 AM 09/16/08 09:52 AM
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EV2CUDA super stock E Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 738 Oh Canada	I am installing a low deck with stage 6 heads and an indy 440-1 intake. I will go with a fiberglass shaker hood to replace my ralley hood, they are available at a place in Ontario. Not sure if I will use the base plate or secure the shaker to an air cleaner or go with feet of some sort attached to the intake. I do want it to look as stock as possible( no hack job?) 71 Barracuda 383 4spd (500ci) 69 camaro 598, NOS 69 barracuda bbc procharger 77 t/a 6.0 turbo project 78 t/a 400 77 corvette 1983 hurst/olds 03 Viper 79 360 macho 71 demon 360 78 Warlock 5.7 hemi project

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: EV2CUDA] #121603 09/16/08 10:27 AM 09/16/08 10:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,... The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast
The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...	I will be using an RB Block and am leaning towards Stage VI with the 440-1 intake as well. I too want this set up to be stock looking. I just have never seen this done and want to know if I need to select another set of hi-perf alum heads to accomplish this? I want to use factory repo parts eg. metal hood, bubble ect. As far as the shaker goes. Don Street/Strip 73 Barracuda

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: The Cuda Guy] #121604 09/16/08 10:57 AM 09/16/08 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I will be using an RB Block and am leaning towards Stage VI with the 440-1 intake as well. I too want this set up to be stock looking. I just have never seen this done and want to know if I need to select another set of hi-perf alum heads to accomplish this? I want to use factory repo parts eg. metal hood, bubble ect. As far as the shaker goes. Don You will have to modify the baseplate if you use anything other than a head with a std port location and a stock height intake. the 440-1 intake is very tall , I really doubt anything is going to even fit under a stock shaker bubble and not restrict airflow into the carb . This might be better asked in the RACE SECTION

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: JohnRR] #121605 09/16/08 12:23 PM 09/16/08 12:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,... The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast
The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...	John thanks, you made a good point about the intake height, I went back and looked and my intent was to use the Indy dual plane intake not the -1. Thank you for your help. Don Street/Strip 73 Barracuda

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: The Cuda Guy] #121606 09/16/08 01:58 PM 09/16/08 01:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A.	Quote: John thanks, you made a good point about the intake height, I went back and looked and my intent was to use the Indy dual plane intake not the -1. Thank you for your help. Don I had the Indy dual plane its as tall, or I think even taller, than a performer RPM which is a couple inches taller than a stock intake.

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: JohnRR] #121607 09/16/08 03:12 PM 09/16/08 03:12 PM
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moper I Live Here M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT	What john says is right. The dual plane is tall too. I would simply figure you will need ot modify things, and more than likely it will require cutting and welding to get the right fit. Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: moper] #121608 09/16/08 10:11 PM 09/16/08 10:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,215 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,215 Benton, IL.	I just did this on my Cuda. 440, Holley SD intake, 1 3/8 spacer, and Dominator. Had to use a drop base air cleaner base in the Shaker base and had to fab up a raised center in the lid but it all fits. Master, again and still

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: DaveRS23] #121609 09/17/08 08:15 AM 09/17/08 08:15 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario shaker340 mopar
shaker340 mopar Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario	Here is a picture of what I did 5 yrs ago to rememdy using an airgap intake on a smallblock. Modify the base plate to receive a drop base, I used an edelbrock in this case. Mike 4691571-shaker5.jpg (50 downloads) 2008 Challenger SRT8 1940 Chrysler Royal coupe

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: shaker340] #121610 09/17/08 08:34 AM 09/17/08 08:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Here is a picture of what I did 5 yrs ago to rememdy using an airgap intake on a smallblock. Modify the base plate to receive a drop base, I used an edelbrock in this case. Mike

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: shaker340] #121611 09/17/08 09:53 AM 09/17/08 09:53 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,... The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast
The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...	Mike, Looks good! Thank you for posting. Do you think that would get the same affect with set up Im looking at doing or do I need to look at something completly different like, another style of head/intake for a 440? Don Street/Strip 73 Barracuda

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: The Cuda Guy] #121612 09/17/08 10:20 AM 09/17/08 10:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,071 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Mike, Looks good! Thank you for posting. Do you think that would get the same affect with set up Im looking at doing or do I need to look at something completly different like, another style of head/intake for a 440? Don Don heres a real dumb question ... What is more IMPORTANT to YOU , the shaker hood or the engine build ? What was posted above is the way you would want to go about it but you have to remember that a 440 sits taller that a 340 , another good picture would be a front shot of the shaker with the air filter and lid installed inside it .

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: JohnRR] #121613 09/17/08 01:06 PM 09/17/08 01:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario shaker340 mopar
shaker340 mopar Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario	You will definitely want to know this measurement with a 440, then measure fron carb throat on baseplate to gills to see if you will be too high for the shaker bubble to fit thru the hood. Mike 4692174-trimringtocarb.jpg (72 downloads) 2008 Challenger SRT8 1940 Chrysler Royal coupe

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: shaker340] #121614 09/17/08 01:07 PM 09/17/08 01:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario shaker340 mopar
shaker340 mopar Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario	Bubble gill to carb throat measurement. Mike 4692176-Grilletothroat.jpg (61 downloads) 2008 Challenger SRT8 1940 Chrysler Royal coupe

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: shaker340] #121615 09/17/08 01:11 PM 09/17/08 01:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario shaker340 mopar
shaker340 mopar Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 425 Eastern Ontario	And lastly, if you have to bring the outer baseplate down towards the engine, you might interfere with the valve covers. As they say..."measure twice cut once". I only have experience with the small block application at this time. Mike 2008 Challenger SRT8 1940 Chrysler Royal coupe

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: shaker340] #121616 09/17/08 02:18 PM 09/17/08 02:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,928 Canada R RobR master
RobR master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,928 Canada	I cut the base and put a 1" lip in most of the times...I've done 1/2 a doz and in two of those BB installs I had to modify the motor mounts to drop the engine 1/2 an inch(Indy-1's) .All the small block ones have only needed 3/4 to a 1" lip.(strip Dominator intake and Holley carb combos)

Re: Shaker & After Market Heads and Intake [Re: RobR] #121617 09/17/08 03:05 PM 09/17/08 03:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,... The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast
The Cuda Guy OP enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 376 FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...	Thanks guys, Thank you for the pics on the measurements. So I need to think about lowering the engine 1/2 inch and putting a 1" lip in? Thanks. Don Last edited by The Cuda Guy; 09/17/08 03:07 PM.

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