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single stage or dual stage paint? #1214867 04/12/12 03:28 PM 04/12/12 03:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin bigblockbryan OP super stock
bigblockbryan OP super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin	okay we are gonna paint my 69 super bee next month know whats the advantages of going with dual stage paint over the single paint? the bee is gonna be b5 blue witha black out hood and black stripe

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: bigblockbryan] #1214868 04/12/12 04:24 PM 04/12/12 04:24 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 159 Arizona G GreenGlow member
GreenGlow member G Joined: May 2011 Posts: 159 Arizona	This is just my opinion and I'm sure other people will ring in. It depends on what you want. I think the 2 stage has a deeper more mirror like shine. But some people say that it's too shiny and doesn't look like original ( factory ) paint. So if you want the factory look go with single stage but if you want a car shaped mirror go with 2 stage. If your new to painting go with 2 stage you can wet sand alot of sins ( Mistakes) out of the clear coat. Again this is just my opinion I don't want to get caught up in any of the notorious Moparts paint and body question pissing matches

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: GreenGlow] #1214869 04/13/12 06:55 AM 04/13/12 06:55 AM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,235 Phoenix, AZ Jjs72D Deep in the closet
Jjs72D Deep in the closet Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,235 Phoenix, AZ	ANY single stage metallic paint that is sprayed cannot be sanded and buffed without risking paint damage. The metallic particles are disturbed by wet sanding and will blur the finish when you try to cut and buff. I mention this because every paint job that I have seen in the past several years has some orange peel that has to be smoothed out. For this reason, all metallics should be base coat/clear coat. THIS way, you are sanding and buffing the clear coat and not touching or disturbing the paint itself. Solid colors like red, black, white or yellow are perfectly okay to spray in single stage, since they have no metallic particles to disturb. Jeff

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: Jjs72D] #1214870 04/13/12 03:19 PM 04/13/12 03:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 959 Chicago PurpleBeeper super stock
PurpleBeeper super stock Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 959 Chicago	Quote: ANY single stage metallic paint that is sprayed cannot be sanded and buffed without risking paint damage. The metallic particles are disturbed by wet sanding and will blur the finish when you try to cut and buff. I mention this because every paint job that I have seen in the past several years has some orange peel that has to be smoothed out. For this reason, all metallics should be base coat/clear coat. THIS way, you are sanding and buffing the clear coat and not touching or disturbing the paint itself. Solid colors like red, black, white or yellow are perfectly okay to spray in single stage, since they have no metallic particles to disturb. Jeff Both posts above are dead-on correct. 70 Roadrunner convt. street car 440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs '96 Mustang GT convt. street car '04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered "Officer, that button is for short on-ramps"

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: PurpleBeeper] #1214871 04/13/12 09:35 PM 04/13/12 09:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461 Detroit Michigan stinger mopar
stinger mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461 Detroit Michigan	Standards on what a car looks like have changed. if you want to stay in favor of the general public eye go with bc/cc if you want that oem retro look that most people will pick a part go with ss. I know you can go with a single stage urethane and add clear in the final coats but this takes some experience on the painter. with my car I will be useing base/clear and I've been painting for a living for a good stretch.

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: stinger] #1214872 04/13/12 10:25 PM 04/13/12 10:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I am an amateur... In solid colors I do fine with either single stage or base/clear. With mettalics, I don't do very well with single stage. 2 stage only for me on mettalics. That's what I'd recommend.

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: ahy] #1214873 04/13/12 10:43 PM 04/13/12 10:43 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 143 Crofton, MD B bri440 member
bri440 member B Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 143 Crofton, MD	2nd that comment. Single stage metallic is very hard unless you are a pro. Its very hard to prevent stripes caused by how the metallics lay out. A little too heavy or too light from pass to pass causes huge problems.

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: ahy] #1214874 04/13/12 11:15 PM 04/13/12 11:15 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP! DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack!
DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack! Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP!	Quote: I am an amateur... In solid colors I do fine with either single stage or base/clear. With mettalics, I don't do very well with single stage. 2 stage only for me on mettalics. That's what I'd recommend. I've been messing with single stage metallics, It is tuff, but I'm kinda getting the hang of it. The pic below does no do the real deal justice, not striping or uneven coverage. I know its not as big as a car.. but its a start 7164089-photo.JPG (143 downloads) When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: DARTH V8Я] #1214875 04/14/12 01:30 AM 04/14/12 01:30 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	A single stage urethane when it's all buffed up will look as glossy as a lot of base/clear jobs out there. Quality of materials and skill of the painter can make all the difference. My paint guy prefers to do base/clear on everything. He says that way if there are any imperfections they can be sanded out of the clear and buffed to a mirror shine after. I have had good luck painting single stage non-metallics myself but runs are easier to make and harder to get rid of than base/clear.

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1214876 04/15/12 02:58 PM 04/15/12 02:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin bigblockbryan OP super stock
bigblockbryan OP super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin	i think im going to dual stage its going to be b5 blue on my 69 super bee. Anyway is there a certin color of primer i should use to paint the car before i put my B5 blue on? this car is going to be a cruiser not a show car too.

Re: single stage or dual stage paint? [Re: bigblockbryan] #1214877 04/15/12 03:01 PM 04/15/12 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I would think a medium grey primer would give the truest color. Light grey might make it a little brighter.

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