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s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! #121470 09/15/08 08:46 PM 09/15/08 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 OP master
RV2 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	I put a fresh 360 in my van and I cant keep the oil filter plate from leaking, I have resealed it 3 times, any suggestions?

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RV2] #121471 09/15/08 08:55 PM 09/15/08 08:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md	get a new plate

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RV2] #121472 09/15/08 09:13 PM 09/15/08 09:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC master
JonC master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	I had the same problem with an old plate, it was recommended that I reset it by hitting it with a hammer in the middle of it. Maybe the original poster can explain the details.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: JonC] #121473 09/15/08 09:19 PM 09/15/08 09:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	You are just using one large gasket aren't you? There should be no gasket in the center where the hollow double ended nut goes. Make sure that the plate is flat. Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: MoparforLife] #121474 09/15/08 09:20 PM 09/15/08 09:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 OP master
RV2 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	I have the small gasket between the plate and the block and also the large gasket between the plate and block.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RV2] #121475 09/15/08 09:22 PM 09/15/08 09:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Get rid of that small gasket and just use the large one. The small one is not used with the plate. Only with the angle adapter. using the small one in the center is not allowing youtighten the plate down enough to seal.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: MoparforLife] #121476 09/15/08 09:27 PM 09/15/08 09:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 OP master
RV2 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	O k thanks for the info.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RV2] #121477 09/15/08 09:51 PM 09/15/08 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	you are welcome! Hope it works for you. I always use a liberal coat of axle grease on the gasket to hold it in place. Also seems to help seal. Works for me anyway.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RV2] #121478 09/16/08 12:40 AM 09/16/08 12:40 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 102 Round Rock, Tx PlumCrazyChris member
PlumCrazyChris member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 102 Round Rock, Tx	I had the same problem when I used a High Volume oil pump. The seal just can't hang. My friend had the same thing. He found an O ring that worked. Good luck with that. VP of Mopar Muscle Cars of Austin 70 Challenger www.mopar.org

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: PlumCrazyChris] #121479 09/16/08 09:38 AM 09/16/08 09:38 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 576 Escondido, CA kick_the_reverb mopar
kick_the_reverb mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 576 Escondido, CA	When I was pre-lubing my 318 on the stand, I found out the plate was leaking. I took it off, and tried the hammer trick. Still leaked. Tried a different plate - and it was fine. 2 weeks of driving, and that plate leaked. I got a brand new one from the dealer, and that solved the problem. My conclusion is to replace with a new one every time. Ran "Hey mister, something's wrong with your car, it idles roughly" - number one comment I got in Israel when daily driving a 70 Barracuda with a lopey cam. Currently working on - 1966 Dodge A100 van 318/auto Finally - disc brakes on the front. In the plans - rear disc brakes, B&M 250 blower

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: kick_the_reverb] #121480 09/16/08 10:14 AM 09/16/08 10:14 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	i had the same problems as the 2 posters just above. the plate leaked. tried a new gasket. it leaked (A LOT). I put the right angle adapter on instead and it worked like a charm. my plate looked flat, looked great. couldnt explain why I dumped quarts of oil....

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: kick_the_reverb] #121481 09/16/08 10:14 AM 09/16/08 10:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	My point being though, you still only use 1 gasket and that on the outer ring of the plate to block surface whether you use used or new. The center has to seat metal to metal for the outer rim to seat tight enough to create a good seal.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: MoparforLife] #121482 09/16/08 02:46 PM 09/16/08 02:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md	Quote: When I was pre-lubing my 318 on the stand, I found out the plate was leaking. I took it off, and tried the hammer trick. Still leaked. Tried a different plate - and it was fine. 2 weeks of driving, and that plate leaked. I got a brand new one from the dealer, and that solved the problem. My conclusion is to replace with a new one every time. Ran That`s why I suggested to get a new plate because once they get bent it is hard to get them to seal again.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: mopars4ever] #121483 09/16/08 08:40 PM 09/16/08 08:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND 69Cuda340S master
69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	I just bought a Felpro gasket, part number 70522, for my filter plate. Its really really thick. I first cleaned the block and plate with Brake Parts Cleaner to remove ALL oil film. Then I put a thin film of RTV sealer on each side. Then bolted plate to the block with no gasket in the middle. I then ran the oil pump with a priming rod. With 80 pounds of oil pressure not one drop came out.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: 69Cuda340S] #121484 09/16/08 09:11 PM 09/16/08 09:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I'll be sure & copy that # for the next time I'm there. but it makes me wonder if the other gaskets are just too thin/inadequate or if a plate over time become less concave & the outside rim isn't being drawn down tight enough. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: RapidRobert] #121485 09/16/08 09:44 PM 09/16/08 09:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	One thing to remember is to never use a gasket in the middle. They aren't designed to have one there and like I said before putting a gasket there decrease the amount of crush applied to the out ring gasket. If you lay the plate on a flat surface with the gasket under it there should be clearance between the flat surface and the center of the plate. This allow it to be drawn down tight.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: MoparforLife] #121486 09/17/08 09:53 AM 09/17/08 09:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND 69Cuda340S master
69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	When I put mine on with the fat Felpro gasket there was a small gap in the middle between the plate and the block. So with no gasket in the middle tightening the fitting pulled the plate to the block which puts a nice clamping force on the outside of plate.

Re: s.b oil filter plate leaking Help! [Re: 69Cuda340S] #121487 09/17/08 10:04 AM 09/17/08 10:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: When I put mine on with the fat Felpro gasket there was a small gap in the middle between the plate and the block. So with no gasket in the middle tightening the fitting pulled the plate to the block which puts a nice clamping force on the outside of plate.

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