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Re: '93 Caravan, 2.5 running rich? [Re: therocks] #1206164
04/05/12 01:45 AM
04/05/12 01:45 AM
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Ron didnt you just love working on those old 2.2s and 2.5s?One of the easiest motors ever to work on.I really like the ones with no AC to do timing belts on.Only problems I remember was the rubber carb base that had to be changed.That and those carbs either worked great or were a total pain in the A--.Rocky





I actually drive an 88 Aries K-car with a 2.5 for my daily driver. I call it my beater but it runs great and is still in ok shape. I love the fact that it is so easy to work on. Heck in the shop you could pull the trans out in about 2 hrs with ease. Could pull the cylinder head in about 1.5 to 2 hrs as it is just so easy to work on. And I like it when my own car is easy to work on. Even the 63 seems so easy to work on when I compare it to my sons Dart with a 400 in it. Ron

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Re: '93 Caravan, 2.5 running rich? [Re: 383man] #1206165
04/05/12 12:52 PM
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I'm going to take the van in to a friend's shop on Monday. Its getting too dangerous to drive. The idle is just all over the place. One minute fine, the next, stalling, then back to 30 MPH idle (its gone up from the previous 20 MPH idle).

It may be a durable, simple engine, but, its stupid stuff like this why I've avoided them so long.



Thanks guys.


John

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Re: '93 Caravan, 2.5 running rich? [Re: SattyNoCar] #1206166
04/05/12 04:14 PM
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Have you ever taken the TBI assembly off the intake manifold and cleaned it out ?

Re: '93 Caravan, 2.5 running rich? [Re: 135sohc] #1206167
04/05/12 08:32 PM
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Have you ever taken the TBI assembly off the intake manifold and cleaned it out ?




Ummm....no. In part because when I did on my Mom's '93 Spirit she (used) to have, I had one HECK of a time finding the base plate gasket.

I swung by my friends shop today, he confirmed its the AIS motor hanging up. Maybe I need to bite the bullet and pull the throttle body.......


John

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Re: '93 Caravan, 2.5 running rich? [Re: SattyNoCar] #1206168
04/07/12 12:35 AM
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Didn't pull the throttle body, but, did bite the bullet and replaced the AIS motor after my friend assured me it wasn't hard to do.



We have acceleration now! Its still 90HP pulling a brick around, but, you can feel a HUGE difference, even compared to before the idle went crazy. From an off-idle roll, when I punch it (but still not floored) stuff laying on the floor actually slides back towards the tailgate. This has NEVER happened before.

I gave it a quick run down the freeway then pulled codes after waiting a few minutes, only 12, 37, and 55 come up now.

Thanks everyone for the help. I'm sure this won't be the last time.

As an aside, thanks to Advance Auto discount codes, I got the AIS motor for less than $50.00.


John

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