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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Tav, My set from Metro fit pretty well. Not perfect but acceptable. Here's a pix from the back, not too bad. Actually my passenger side fit better than the drivers. 
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Thanks for your pictures earlier. No filler here. That's the original sheetmetal. It's been blasted down to bare metal and then covered in 3 coats of self etching primer, block sanding between each coat. Besides, if the car did have a bunch of filler there, then the original pieces wouldn't fit either.
I don't think I'm being overly picky about this. I'm not going for OE, I just want some trim that will fit on the car and look good at the local shows.
I wish my pieces fit as well as yours do. I think I could live with the fit on the drivers side piece, but that passenger piece just won't go on. How long ago did you buy your set? Maybe yours are from before Metro had their fire? Looks like the originals were stamped into shape from flat aluminum, while the Metros seem to be bent to shape from a pre-formed straight length of trim.
Maybe I should order another set from metro and hope for the best? Or, contact them and see if I can exchange my end pieces for new ones? I'll pay postage, no big deal.
Isn't Metro here on moparts somewhere? What's their user name?
For the record, their hood trim fits great. Just having problems with these pieces.
Tav
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Please call Metro at 912-383-0172 If you prefer to e-mail - metroparts@alltell.netDo not use the e-mail link off the website. The e-mail off of the website for whatever reason does not work all of the time. Joel will refund your money or ship you a new molding.
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Tav,
My set from Metro fit pretty well. Not perfect but acceptable. Here's a pix from the back, not too bad. Actually my passenger side fit better than the drivers.
I bought just the 70 Challenger trunk lid piece from Metro(having an SE I don't need separate Qtr pieces). It seemed to be a fine piece but the problem I encountered is that the little cut-out on the trim that allows for the retaining clips to be inserted lines-up with the location of the outermost retainers. This is true of both ends. So I am stuck unless I re-drill the holes for the ends.
Anyone else have this issue? Maybe the outside holes in my decklid are too far out to start with...
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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We are in the process of doing the tail trim for the 70 & 71-74 Challenger right now. Michael C. Ross - Owner B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. www.beaparts.com330-725-3990
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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09/17/08 11:43 AM
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We are in the process of doing the tail trim for the 70 & 71-74 Challenger right now.
Michael C. Ross - Owner
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www.beaparts.com
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Well, that got my attention! Any eta....I can certainly wait 
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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09/17/08 12:54 PM
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I bought just the 70 Challenger trunk lid piece from Metro(having an SE I don't need separate Qtr pieces). It seemed to be a fine piece but the problem I encountered is that the little cut-out on the trim that allows for the retaining clips to be inserted lines-up with the location of the outermost retainers. This is true of both ends. So I am stuck unless I re-drill the holes for the ends.
Anyone else have this issue? Maybe the outside holes in my decklid are too far out to start with...
IIRC I had this problem too. The clips can install in two directions. When you install them the wrong way they line up with the cut-out. Try taking them off and installing them the other way.
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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02/13/09 02:38 AM
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I used the metro ones... yeah they are junk! The quarter pieces are too long on the bottom and hang down past the bottom. I used the supplied clips on the trunk molding, they were too long and got dimples in the trim. So fixed that and in the process of polishing it... I didn't even try the hood molding yet. Can't wait to see how it fits. 
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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02/13/09 01:36 PM
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I used the metro ones... yeah they are junk! The quarter pieces are too long on the bottom and hang down past the bottom. I used the supplied clips on the trunk molding, they were too long and got dimples in the trim. So fixed that and in the process of polishing it... I didn't even try the hood molding yet. Can't wait to see how it fits.
If you sand them and polish them,the brite dip will be gone and will not stay nice for long
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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02/13/09 09:53 PM
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Your original pieces look restorable, why mess with a poor fitting repro part?
I used "King of Trim" in Ca with good results.
Hi Barnabas, good to see you again. Glad to hear King of Trim did a good job on your parts.
At first I chose repro over restored because of time. I could have the repro parts right away, but to have some restored was a 2+ month wait. Price on repro vs. restored was comparable with restoration being just a little higher. (restoration cost depends a lot on the condition of your cores)
Then I found out the metro repro parts didn't fit, and that B/E & A would soon be releasing a new set of repro. So, I was back to square 1 on choosing between repro vs. restored. I was considering having mine restored by MR Belvedere here on Moparts because I have ALWAYS heard good things about his work.
In the end I chose repro again because I've seen several of the amazing quality pieces B/E & A has released. They have an excellent reputation and I trust them to make stuff that fits. Mike is easy to deal with, and I also plan on using his repro headlight bezels/hood trim on the front of the car. This way my car will match front and rear with the chrome trim instead of the bright dip anodized. Also, after seeing that the metro part is flat and my originals have a compound curve, I had concerns about the ability of ANY trim restorer to repair that compound curve without a car in front of them to fit the part against. I was worried that when they "straightened" the part, it would be flat like the metro piece.
To the untrained eye, the compound curve is difficult to see. The trim appears flat, but it deffinately is Not. There is a bend and a little twist at the same time.
I took some pictures of it to show everyone here on this thread. I placed each piece of trim (original, B/E & A, metro) on a flat surface, then pressed the bottom edge of it down with my finger so that the bottom edge was flat on the table. With that end flat on the table, you could see the NOT flat part lifting up above the flat surface. I put my favorite pile of mopar colored post it notes next to the lifted end of the trim as a crude measuring device so you could compare the 3 pictures better.
Here's the pictures...
This one is my original trim (remember, it's old and a little beat up)
Tav
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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02/13/09 10:22 PM
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Are the BEA ones chrome like the add says or brite dip like orig ??? Any pics of the new BEA ones ??
Yes, the B/E & A pieces ARE chrome. The chrome is over aluminum, not steel, so it could never rust like an old bumper would. Chrome and brite dip anodize could both be scratched, but are fairly resistant to it because they are hard. Plain polished aluminum is soft, easily scratched, and requires constant polishing to keep it shiny.
Yes, the chrome is a little bit more shiny than the brite dip anodize. It's not an overtly noticable difference. Most people would not notice. You'd have to be looking for it to tell the difference I think. The important thing here is to use B/E & A trunk lip molding along with the B/E & A quarter molding so that you don't have the two different coatings displayed side by side. This might make some of you guys with SE cars that don't use quarter molding think twice about buying the trunk molding, it's chrome too.
Take a look at the earlier pictures next to the post it notes for a comparison of how shiny the parts are.
Also, here is a pic of the 3 different trim pieces side by side. Original on the left, B/E & A in the middle, metro on the right.
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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The METRO trunk lid molding is way off
I Agree with this also.
once again, the metro trim is flat and the B/E & A piece is the proper shape.
I placed the two pieces next to each other (touching) on a flat surface with my mopar colored post it notes behind (also touching) and took a picture of the middle of the trunk trims.
Here's what I got. pretty big difference huh?
Tav
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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I used the (Metro) supplied clips on the trunk molding, they were too long and got dimples in the trim.
Wow, Metro didn't send me any clips with my trim. It bothered me a little at first that they had been left out, but now I'm glad I didn't get any.
The B/E & A set DOES come with clips, and they're the nice ones that work great instead of the cheap ones that break as you install them.
Tav
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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I used the metro ones... yeah they are junk! I didn't even try the hood molding yet. Can't wait to see how it fits.
I just wanted to set the record straight here. I don't intend this to be a thread about bashing Metro. They do have some good things to offer to the Mopar restoration hobby. I'm just saying that THIS particular set of trim is poor quality.
I now have both the B/E & A and Metro Hood Trim, and both pieces look and fit excellent. No worries there. The B/E & A Hood Trim is chrome to go with their chrome headlight bezels, so if you're not going to use chrome headlight bezels you'll probably want to stick with the Metro Hood Trim.
Tav
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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02/14/09 11:19 AM
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??
For one thing chrome is very easy to have come out consitant.
Polish,Copper,nickel, and chrome, Anodizing shows much mre if it is not 100% right
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??
it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...
the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.
Mike
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??
it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...
the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.
Mike
Mike, ck your email listed here . I may need parts done .
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??
it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...
the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.
Mike
I figured something like that was going on. -Some materials or process issue. I didn't think they'd chrome them for the bling effect. 
Is aluminum bright trim like that deburred then straight anodized? Like it looks shiny right out of the dies? Or is it polished and deburred in a barrel type process.
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Edit) I am asking the same as Bill sorry for the repost
Any Pictures of the trunk molding next to a factory SE trim? How bad is it? I already had the neadlight buckets redone and brite dipped.but need the hood.
Maybe I am far off on this but what about making some in stainless so it could be finished as needed,to get proper shine?
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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Edit) I am asking the same as Bill sorry for the repost
Any Pictures of the trunk molding next to a factory SE trim? How bad is it? I already had the neadlight buckets redone and brite dipped.but need the hood.
Maybe I am far off on this but what about making some in stainless so it could be finished as needed,to get proper shine?
We are looking at all the trim in Stainless steel on the next production run.
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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding
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No, you can't use the same tool. We will have to make another one.
If you don't mind me asking, How are thay made?
I was allways a fan of that show how it's made.
My wild guess is the stainless is rolled threw a tool like is used on a gutter machine for a home just smaller.
And the notches for the clips are cut before this is done. The the ends of it are pressed closed 
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I did get trim that fit decent off of e-bag made shure to ask that mfg was not metro. sorry I can't remember the sellers name.
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