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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: cataclysm80] #120181
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Here is the metro trim.

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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #120182
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Are the BEA ones chrome like the add says or brite dip like orig ??? Any pics of the new BEA ones ??




Yes, the B/E & A pieces ARE chrome. The chrome is over aluminum, not steel, so it could never rust like an old bumper would. Chrome and brite dip anodize could both be scratched, but are fairly resistant to it because they are hard. Plain polished aluminum is soft, easily scratched, and requires constant polishing to keep it shiny.

Yes, the chrome is a little bit more shiny than the brite dip anodize. It's not an overtly noticable difference. Most people would not notice. You'd have to be looking for it to tell the difference I think. The important thing here is to use B/E & A trunk lip molding along with the B/E & A quarter molding so that you don't have the two different coatings displayed side by side. This might make some of you guys with SE cars that don't use quarter molding think twice about buying the trunk molding, it's chrome too.

Take a look at the earlier pictures next to the post it notes for a comparison of how shiny the parts are.

Also, here is a pic of the 3 different trim pieces side by side. Original on the left, B/E & A in the middle, metro on the right.

Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #120183
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The METRO trunk lid molding is way off




I Agree with this also.

once again, the metro trim is flat and the B/E & A piece is the proper shape.

I placed the two pieces next to each other (touching) on a flat surface with my mopar colored post it notes behind (also touching) and took a picture of the middle of the trunk trims.

Here's what I got. pretty big difference huh?

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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: Silver70] #120184
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I used the (Metro) supplied clips on the trunk molding, they were too long and got dimples in the trim.




Wow, Metro didn't send me any clips with my trim. It bothered me a little at first that they had been left out, but now I'm glad I didn't get any.

The B/E & A set DOES come with clips, and they're the nice ones that work great instead of the cheap ones that break as you install them.

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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: cataclysm80] #120185
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If cost is a concern, Metro charged me $165 for the 3 tailpanel trim pieces.

B/E & A charged me $159 for their set.

+ Both places charged me $15 shipping.

If I remember correctly, I think restoring originals was in the $200 range with a 2+ month wait.

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I used the metro ones... yeah they are junk! I didn't even try the hood molding yet. Can't wait to see how it fits.




I just wanted to set the record straight here. I don't intend this to be a thread about bashing Metro. They do have some good things to offer to the Mopar restoration hobby. I'm just saying that THIS particular set of trim is poor quality.

I now have both the B/E & A and Metro Hood Trim, and both pieces look and fit excellent. No worries there. The B/E & A Hood Trim is chrome to go with their chrome headlight bezels, so if you're not going to use chrome headlight bezels you'll probably want to stick with the Metro Hood Trim.

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Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: cataclysm80] #120187
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So You are saying that if I get the B/E&A trim it will look realy bad next to a se rear rtim that is NOS?Making the NOS part not look shiney enough?

Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: 340SIX] #120188
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??

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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??


For one thing chrome is very easy to have come out consitant.
Polish,Copper,nickel, and chrome, Anodizing shows much mre if it is not 100% right

Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: 340SIX] #120190
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TThanks for the pics..the BEA parts look very nice, finally a trunk lid molding with the correct shape. The chrome would not be a big issue on my car (71 R/T) as 2/3 of the molding is painted black.

Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: autoxcuda] #120191
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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??




it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...

the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.

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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??




it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...

the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.

Mike




Mike, ck your email listed here . I may need parts done .

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I find it very strange BEA choose to chrome that aluminum trim instead of just anodizing it like original?? The appearance if quite different. Mike??




it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...

the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.

Mike




I figured something like that was going on. -Some materials or process issue. I didn't think they'd chrome them for the bling effect.

Is aluminum bright trim like that deburred then straight anodized? Like it looks shiny right out of the dies? Or is it polished and deburred in a barrel type process.

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it might have something to do with the wrong alloy being used to make the parts, which leaves them dull rather than bright after anodizing...

the Repro 69 RR grilles have/had the same issue when they first came out.

Mike





Mike is correct, the problem is the material. The only way we could get the grade of aluminum that is polished "bright one side" was to order a 15,000# roll. It's a special process and a particular grade of aluminum goes through, a mill will not supply it unless they can run an entire roll. It wasn't cost effective to have that done.

These pieces will not be for everyone, we wanted to try to fill the nitch that wanted parts that fit correctly even though they shine more than the original. They sure are pretty though.

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So, how does the repop trunk mouldings compare to nos 1/4 mouldings . Same on the hood moulding compared to nos head light doors

When I did my former 1970 Challenger I had the SE argent rear panel so the repop 1/4 trim wasn't an issue. But the hood moulding matched up real well against NOS headlight bezels,,, at that time. Anyone done a comparison on this recently.

Currently on the hunt for these exact parts for a 71 challenger. This thread has more of an interest to me

Re: 70 Challenger Trunk/Quarter Molding [Re: gtx6970] #120196
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Edit) I am asking the same as Bill sorry for the repost
Any Pictures of the trunk molding next to a factory SE trim? How bad is it? I already had the neadlight buckets redone and brite dipped.but need the hood.
Maybe I am far off on this but what about making some in stainless so it could be finished as needed,to get proper shine?

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I don't have an NOS SE rear trim panel, but I DO have 1 NOS 70 headlight bezel. I'll try and post a pic of it next to the new B/E & A chrome hood trim soon.

Tav

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Edit) I am asking the same as Bill sorry for the repost
Any Pictures of the trunk molding next to a factory SE trim? How bad is it? I already had the neadlight buckets redone and brite dipped.but need the hood.
Maybe I am far off on this but what about making some in stainless so it could be finished as needed,to get proper shine?





We are looking at all the trim in Stainless steel on the next production run.

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Kool Mike that will be easy to get any finish from Satin to Chrome. I was unsure if the process would let you do harder metal than the aluim.

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No, you can't use the same tool. We will have to make another one.

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